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Old 10/24/10, 3:34 PM   #1476
Antherius
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Blood Elf Paladin
 
Dragonmaw
Protribution in 4.0.1

Hi i was wondering that since AS no longer is based on BV should protribution paladins just stack ret pvp gear + str gems?
And also, is 2pc t10 prot still worth it?

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Old 10/25/10, 10:16 AM   #1477
Danath
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Human Paladin
 
Les Sentinelles (EU)
I would like the experienced PvP Ret paladins (I played Retribution Paladin last time in PvP when there were still ranks, almost got to Rank 10 but then I switched to Fury Warrior to be in MC,BWL & AQ40 raids) to comment on whether they like the changes Cataclysm brought/ is about to bring to the class.

I think it should require more skill to compete than in Wotlk, but it should be funnier, too; which is good, finally being able to feel like a proper Warrior of the Light so to speak with many skills at disposal. Something I've been waiting for a very long time.

Also, I'd like an opinion on the basic Ret PvE build at 85. It should be like this Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft, the new talent design from Blizzard means every class in every spec does take some PvP abilities anyway; my question however is, how gimped would this be in PvP in comparison to a proper, PvP focused Ret build? I am in a pretty small guild, so my dual spec could be busy with either Prot or Holy; of course there is always respeccing, but I never was a huge money maker in my WoW history...What do you think?

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Old 11/11/10, 2:34 PM   #1478
Idocreating
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Blood Elf Paladin
 
Daggerspine (EU)
Danath, while it could still prove pretty effective for larking around, your build lacks 2 key talents for mobility: Guardian's Favour and Acts of Sacrifice.

The 4 points change your 6 second duration/25 second cooldown Hand of Freedom to a 10 second duration/20 second cooldown. With the ability to dispel magic removed this is the only method of getting out of snares.

Your best off just pratting around in Battlegrounds and gauging your mobility vs various classes. If your getting kited into oblivion, you may want to pick up a more PvP focused spec.

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Old 11/17/10, 1:53 PM   #1479
Beefster
Glass Joe
 
Dwarf Paladin
 
Aggramar
Originally Posted by Antherius View Post
Hi i was wondering that since AS no longer is based on BV should protribution paladins just stack ret pvp gear + str gems?
And also, is 2pc t10 prot still worth it?
BV is no longer relevant, AS scales best off of strength now. Ret PvP gear is optimal. Generally, people stack +20 str gems as all of prot's abilities scale off of it thanks to TbtL, personally i take a survivability approach and gem for resilience, while using str/resil and hit/resil gems to grab the str socket bonuses.

As for 2pc t10, it is not worth it, the resilience and damage stats from full ret pvp will prove far more versatile than improved HotR, which you should only be using if your target is wearing plate.

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Old 11/22/10, 2:18 PM   #1480
Slider_1128
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Human Paladin
 
Feathermoon
I have started pvping as a Holy Pally recently. I was curious for tips on dealing with Interrupts. Rogues DKs and Warriors that know what they are doing become a problem cause they can effectively lock out my casting for nearly half the time. When I played a druid I would bait them into using their interrupts on non-Resto spells or just use those non-healing spells when I was locked out of my Resto ones.

Holy Pallys only have Holy spells, when i get interrupted every single spell i have is on lockout to me. I would like to hear how others deal with this problem

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Old 11/24/10, 10:16 AM   #1481
Morph
Von Kaiser
 
Human Rogue
 
Bloodfeather (EU)
Until the shattering we could use instant heals (Holy Shock and WoG) in conjunction with Protecter of the Innocent and be uninterruptable. Chain silence and stuns were pretty much the only way of killing us. It was great fun being Mana burned, as we could heal ourselves with one HP WoGs every 2 seconds which would give a full power secondary heal from PotI. Feel their frustration !
This has been nerfed in two ways. Firstly PotI doesn't trigger on self heals. Secondly, Blessed Life, which gave the HPs from being hit once every 2 seconds has been nerfed to once every 8 seconds. The fun of OP has left us.
We will now have to sit in the back again and avoid being targeted so that we can cast our heals and avoid interrupts. Aura mastery is a must to avoid silences from interrupts. It was great fun before when I would charge into the middle of any fight and hope I would get hit to take pressure off the dpsers and generate a ton of free healing.

Ohh well. They were bound to catch up with it eventually.

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Old 11/30/10, 1:02 PM   #1482
jmayhall
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Blood Elf Paladin
 
Shu'halo
After the 4.0 patch, holy pallies seemed to own in battlegrounds. With all the changes to ret, I'm contimplating going pvp holy/pve holy come cata. Did holy still own in PTR battlegrounds? I wasnt able to get beta to find out.

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Old 12/03/10, 11:24 AM   #1483
Morph
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Human Rogue
 
Bloodfeather (EU)
See my comment above yours. We Holy Pallies have been severely (but rightly) nerfed. I have heard that Glyph of Long Word could be the answer though. I have heard rumour that the HoT ticks from the glyph trigger Protector of the Innocent (as well as the original heal), which could make single HP WoG spam on various team mates a great way of defending yourself through a silence or stun routine. I need to check this out though.

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Old 12/05/10, 9:58 PM   #1484
Jeandesbois
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Jeandesbois
Human Paladin
 
Khaz'goroth
I have tested what Morph has said on my paladin. Turns out it doesn't work.The HoT ticks from the glyph do NOT trigger PotI NOR trigger BoL. As such the glyph is only used to get a HoT as a paladin

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