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Old 05/04/07, 4:09 PM   1 links from elsewhere to this Post. Click to view. #1 (permalink)
Von Kaiser
 
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Final results of quali. rd. 2

North american qualification round two result:

http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/?#...=Coliseum&ts=5

And the turn out in europe seems to be:

http://armory.wow-europe.com/#arena-...=Coliseum&ts=5

Well, let us see who will be disqualified..., you never now! ;-)

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Old 05/04/07, 4:28 PM   #2 (permalink)
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There are several things about playing in the tournament that bugged me

1) We didn't play a single Alliance team. Not even on the first night.
2) There were only 16 teams created by Wednesday night and 3 or 4 of those hadn't even played any games
3) The 9th position is shared by a bunch of teams who have played 0 games

Its no surprise that everyone in my team only felt enough motivation to queue on there just to see if we could get in the top 8 then tell Blizzard to f-off.

I should probably try and put something positive in here...

Some of the teams that are going through (the top 8) are really good. They have solid tactics and teamwork and I was very impressed by a couple of them, but then we only actually played 4 different teams over 5 nights. Best of luck to them.

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Old 05/04/07, 4:36 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Where did PiE (the Tenebris team) end up? I don't even see them on there.

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Old 05/04/07, 4:40 PM   #4 (permalink)
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They didn't bother to make a team, like 14-or-so others.

Just look at the games played on the US side compared to the EU one. Its nothing short of pathetic.

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Old 05/04/07, 5:19 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I have some bad news, GRAMMER POLICE have apparently been disqualified from the next step of the tournament due to account sharing amongst the team, hence the reason why they are not number 1 in the qualifiers :/

It's sad, because to put it lightly, they dominated the European Scene when they were playing to go through.
 
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Old 05/04/07, 5:48 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Yes, north american qualification round is nothing but a disaster.

I already heared about grammarpolice being disqualified, but didn´t know why. If it it is because of acc sharing, well, how stupid of them!
At least when they reached rd. 2, they should have stoped with that, oh well, to bad, see you next season, hopfully.

I am pretty surprised to see so many, actually more, horde teams then alliance. The player base is bigger, paladin, as a key player, is new to horde and the alliance racials are supposed to be better.
It is obvious, that the game is not maxed out yet, concerning the "esport" side, at least.

I am also very sad about the coverage of the whole event. The whole first season is a mess. You do not get any infos, half of the north american teams could not play.

Sad!

True, it is the first season, but blizzard could have put a little more love and organization in it. After all, this is an 8 million player base game and the 5v5 winners are supposed to be the world champion.

I hope Blizz will put much more effort in the regional finals, if they do not pull it off there.

But in my mind, the first season is nothing but a test. I put my hopes in the second, or better, when the chinese are in the boat too.

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Old 05/04/07, 5:57 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Drully View Post
Yes, north america quali rd. is nothing but a disaster.

I an pretty surprised to see so many, actually more, horde teams then alliance. The player base is bigger, paladin, as a key player, is new to horde and the alliance racials are supposed to be better...

I am also very sad about the coverage of the whole event. The whole first season is a mess. You do not get any infos, half of the north american teams could not play...
Yes, there were many mistakes done by blizzard, but they were following the law at least, just their communication about it sucked.

I am not surprised about the Horde vs Alliance imbalance. While Dwarf Priests really get an advantage over other Priests, for all other classes, Horde non-Troll Racials do give a small edge.

Pallys are by far the easiest class to play, so for the "new" horde Pallys there only was a short learning curve.
 
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Old 05/04/07, 6:34 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Because of population imbalance in my battlegroup I stopped playing alliance BG's completely for a while. I made an undead warrior to play PVP. It may be that (a lot of) other pvp-minded people who wanted to move through ranks or whatever decided to play horde.

And you know, once you go horde...

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Old 05/04/07, 6:38 PM   #9 (permalink)
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How do we know these are the final results? And why on earth did most of the US teams that qualified not even set up a team on the Coliseum server?

That makes no sense.
 
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Old 05/04/07, 6:49 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by syeren View Post
I have some bad news, GRAMMER POLICE have apparently been disqualified from the next step of the tournament due to account sharing amongst the team, hence the reason why they are not number 1 in the qualifiers :/

It's sad, because to put it lightly, they dominated the European Scene when they were playing to go through.


Dominated what exactly? I have to admit that they were the hardest team we met but saying the dominated over that many games? I doubt it. I think they beat us 4-0 on our second day of the tourney but bearing in mind that we lost two players from the rules and also lost 15 games on the second day don’t really say much about their style of play.
Looking at the US table is quite comical though, teams on 1500 that will go thro on no games, wtf Is up with that?
US had it better than EU support wise though as we got out ranking tables yesterday……..hope they learn from it.

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Old 05/04/07, 7:06 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Shade View Post
How do we know these are the final results? And why on earth did most of the US teams that qualified not even set up a team on the Coliseum server?

That makes no sense.
Well, a huge chunk of qualifying teams lost key members due to the rules.
 
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Old 05/04/07, 7:13 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Other teams were invited in their place so that 39 teams were still capable of playing on the tournament realm, for instance Tenebris of Ursin (4th) was invited because Everlasting Vendetta (1st) was disqualified and our battlegroup was only allowed 3 teams.

I'm sure many of them didn't even bother out of either apathy, annoyance towards Blizzard's handling of the whole thing or respect for the teams that weren't invited which allowed them to go through.

Oh and plus the whole 'individual members being disqualified' thing.

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Old 05/04/07, 7:30 PM   #13 (permalink)
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We had a team that was invited to it on Nightfall that was ranked something like 20th and we had 4 teams that could go.

I wonder, how many teams that are in qualifiers even plan on traveling?
 
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Old 05/04/07, 7:45 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by mek View Post
Well, a huge chunk of qualifying teams lost key members due to the rules.
Enlighten the ignorant; why were individuals disqualified?
 
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Old 05/04/07, 7:53 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Laws of certain states (conneticut, vermont, blahdy blah) meant some players were ineligable to join in the tournament.

Entire teams were made ineligable if they couldn't field a full team of 5 people because of this.

So in some cases you had teams that went through, but couldn't take their usual 5 people or entire teams that were disqualified and the next qualifying team was invited in their place.

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Old 05/04/07, 7:55 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Sapp View Post
Enlighten the ignorant; why were individuals disqualified?
Legal issues, mostly. Players from quite some US states, and all the canadians were not allowed to play. Something about games, winning money, gambling, etc. That obviously disqulified or gimped many teams, which in turn didn´t play on the quali server.
While that was problematic in the EU too, the problem seems to have been much worse in the US. Which lead to the fact, that there hardly was any competition at all.

Originally Posted by Shade View Post
How do we know these are the final results? And why on earth did most of the US teams that qualified not even set up a team on the Coliseum server?

That makes no sense.
The Second Qualification Round of the Tournament for the North America and European Union Region shall commence on April 22, 2007 at 12:00 AM, Pacific Standard Time and end on May 4, 2007 at 11:59 PM, Pacific Standard Time.

The links are "offical" bye blizzard..., well, that doesn´t mean much in these days...

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Old 05/04/07, 9:13 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Drully View Post
Legal issues, mostly. Players from quite some US states, and all the canadians were not allowed to play. Something about games, winning money, gambling, etc.
Their "tournament rules" includes Canada as part of the North American region, and doesn't include Canada in the list of disqualified areas. I'd be pissed to find out I wasn't eligible.

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Old 05/04/07, 9:15 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Okay, that makes more sense. But I figured that even if you had a key player disqualified, you'd still try to fight it out just to see how you could do. Nothing to lose, after all...

Edit - for example, Clan Hex. They lost their warlock or shadowpriest, and reconfigured their lineup and strategy in order to continue competing. They've made the Top 8 and will go to the regionals.
 
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Old 05/04/07, 9:22 PM   #19 (permalink)
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The problems arise when you have a team with only 6 members in (in this case ZERG IT DOWN,) and your sub setup is a Resto Shaman and a Disc/Holy Priest, but your Warlock gets banned and you're forced to play a Resto Shaman with Resto Gear in an Elemental role, which kind of messed up ZERG IT DOWN in the qualifiers.
 
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Old 05/05/07, 1:16 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Or the just decided it was a joke and waste of time. Thus the apathy mentioned.

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Old 05/05/07, 5:17 AM   #21 (permalink)
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I would like some kind of in-engine way of viewing replays of these matches. That doesn't seem like a difficult technical problem, and would give much better quality than FRAPsed viewing. Sorry this is offtopic but it's related kind of? For those of us a little removed from the tournament? I live in MD so I think I would have been prohibited from entering anyway.

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Old 05/05/07, 5:31 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Zraknul View Post
Their "tournament rules" includes Canada as part of the North American region, and doesn't include Canada in the list of disqualified areas. I'd be pissed to find out I wasn't eligible.
Hm, well, I just kind of repeated what I thought I read. It is possible that I am completley wrong about canada or that it concerns only certain states again..., do not know for sure.

EDIT:
"(A) DER WOHNSITZ DES TEILNEHMERS MUSS SICH IN DEN VEREINIGTEN STAATEN, AUSTRALIEN, NEUSEELAND, SINGAPUR, THAILAND, MALAYSIA, FRANKREICH, DEUTSCHLAND, ÖSTERREICH, ITALIEN, SPANIEN, DEM VEREINIGTEN KÖNIGREICH, DEM GROSSHERZOGTUM LUXEMBURG, NORWEGEN, SCHWEDEN, BELGIEN, DÄNEMARK, DEN NIEDERLANDEN, FINNLAND ODER DER REPUBLIK KOREA BEFINDEN."

Sry, it is in german. Anyways, Canada is excluded completly. And:

(E) DER TEILNEHMER DARF NICHT WOHNHAFT SEIN IN: (X) DEN AMERIKANISCHEN BUNDESSTAATEN NORDDAKOTA, VERMONT, MARYLAND UND CONNECTICUT SOWIE DEN AUSTRALISCHEN BUNDESSTAATEN QUEENSLAND, VICTORIA ODER AUSTRALIAN CAPITAL TERRITORY

North Dacota, Vermont, Conneticut, Maryland and in australia Queensland, Victoria and australian capital territory citizen are also excluded.

Concerning the EU "only" greece, the swiss and everything east of germany is missing.

As you can see, you can go ahead and be pissed..., i call that a mess.

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Old 05/05/07, 7:06 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Can't help it when fascist gambling laws shut this off. There's nothing Blizzard can do about it

They could have made it clear in advance though, I guess they started the whole tournament thing and two weeks later their law deparment tells them "You know players from the following region can't participate unless you want their DAs to go nuts on us?"
 
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Old 05/05/07, 7:08 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Shade View Post
Edit - for example, Clan Hex. They lost their warlock or shadowpriest, and reconfigured their lineup and strategy in order to continue competing. They've made the Top 8 and will go to the regionals.
I'm pretty sure Terrion the shadowpriest in question sorted out that issue and than they finally started playing in the last few days.

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Old 05/05/07, 9:56 AM   #25 (permalink)
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I believe, also, that no mods were allowed either, which made a lot of healers mad.

Or they wouldn't be allowed at the final rounds, or something, and that made people mad.
 
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