They're 9th in the battlegroup now... I guess a lot of teams were late to form fully.

Uiuiui. planning a trip to HH!

And as a complete side track...

Drully, Von Kaiser is the name of a character in an old Nes game called Punchout! It has nothing to mit Deutsche other than being a name of a fictional toon =)

Ah, a name after all..., thx and off topic off.

Apparently something like 5/8 teams to make it into the qualifying round 2 had players isqualified for their names not matching the names on the account.

This tournament is now a joke on another joke.

reference here.
http://www.ampedesports.com/news/351...op-Teams-DQed/

Communication issues aside (Blizzard failed there), it's pretty amazing how dense these people are. Account sharing is against the ToS. Not a hard rule to contemplate.

Yes, I read the article. The only person who came off as slightly reasonable was the one who set his account up under the Credit Card owner's name while it was meant for him. He tried to get it fixed and Blizzard failed there.

Everyone else account shared.

Apparently you didn't read it very carefully, because only certain players were interviewed and many did not explain the reasoning behind being disqualified.

Cary 'Bucwild' Lee: Because 1-60 is terrible and when u need a class u can't really wait for someone to level and gear so they get characters from a friend or whatever. I dont think blizz needs to worry about names matching i mean it doesnt hurt anyone. I would think it was fair if it was laid out from the start but they let u compete on the private servers just to pull the plug on you later.

I'm not really sure what you expect from Blizzard. You want them to promote players that have been breaking their rules?

These players broke the ToS, Blizzard has traditionally been very strict with rule-breakers. There was no way Blizzard are going to endorse players who have specifically broken the rules which they have set.

While I admit Blizzard may have been lax in communicating with players, in the end the players broke the rules which have been in place from Day 1. Just because they were difficult/impossible to enforce doesn't make it "acceptable".

I think it was poorly handled, but I'd hate to see TOS-breaking as a precedent.

"Currently it’s impossible to update the address and name of the account, meaning situations like this are common problems."

That's the main problem, and it's alot of BS. My account is also on the name of the person who used to pay for, it and regardless of trying to change all the info to my own(Hi, we have the same last name!) It can't be done, and when you call about it, all you get from the people there is people stressing who the account belongs too, and other BS.

Yea its mindboggingly stupid that they dont have a system for changing things for legit reasons.

Actually, you have to admit that it states in the tournement rules something like: "contenders must have a regular acc of WoW", which those players didn`t have.
So this doesn´t drop out of the blue sky..., as some of them admited.
They gambeled high by not using legal accs, and lost.

If Blizz would let them compet, the players that used legal accs could easily force the disqualifications or may even go to court.
Blizzard can not let those players play, no way, even though it is very sad.

There are no legit reasons to change the name, It's against ToS to change ownership of an account ever. (Well except for a legal name change, or marriage?).

If you made a mistake when creating the account (listing the wrong owner), there's not really much you can do, or everyone would be claiming they "made a mistake".

Same boat here... account still listed under my old roommate who let me play the game to try it out, then I outleveled him massively and he just bought his own. But of course my account still has my old roommate's name even though I leveled every character I have from level 1.... yeah.

This is all circumventing the real issue, which is that this tournament should have taken place online in the first place, I was recently surprised to hear it would be a live "LAN" type event because it doesn't make any goddamn sense coming out of an MMORPG, and they've screwed over so many players by doing it.

I thought there was something in blizzard's rules about Account Selling/Trading that made it legal as long as you transfered all the Manuals, CDs, original box, etc...


I think it was this paragraph here, but correct me if I'm wrong.

Are you sure about that?

You missed these possibilities:
Death
Power of Attorney (Incapacitation, parent taking account from minor)
Divorce
Marriage
Minor turning 18
Emancipation of a Minor
Enforcement of a court judgement (Bankruptcy court or small claims court for example)

And god knows what else.

Its not worth Blizzards time and money to try and fight a court order. When WoW has been around 10 years like everquest, there is no way their current policy will still be in effect. Too much can change in RL in 10 years to say that whoever opened the account will still be the owner 10 years later.

This is far far off topic though.

For pretty obvious reasons, this is not a reason for change of name to be allowed.

While it may be a fact of most MMO's, it's not for Blizzard's MMO. If you're going to play in Blizzard's backyard, you have to abide by their rules, no matter what you think is right. Thus far, 5 of the 8 top teams got players DQ'd for the regional playoffs. Blizzard has stated time and time again, that account sharing is against their TOS. Fail to go by it, and you're getting banned or worse not making a trip to San Diego. It's safe to assume that Blizzard is not playing around, and if you're going to be playing in Arenas competitively AND in Blizzard sponsored tournaments, you have to take care of all the details, even if you don't agree with them. They didn't spring this up on players either. It's in the EULA and TOS, and most of the DQ'd teams knew that it was a possibility for them to get knocked off the tourney.


It's like this forum. We could turn every post into "leet" or AOL chat or WoW Style posts, but EJ asks that you make an effort to post constructively and somewhat properly. Some people may disagree with it, but when you post under this forum, you're making the agreement to go by their rules. Fail to do so, and you get the ban stick.


http://www.ampedesports.com/news/351...p-Teams-DQed/1

P.S. The name change on accounts is a prickly issue since it's hard to distinguish hacked accounts from "properly" transferred accounts.

You're an idiot. Because Blizzard says so is the worst argument I've ever heard for anything. How many raid members has Blizzard banned for account sharing? How many for buying accounts? Gold buying? Exactly, they choose the ignore many, many cases of very blatant legalese violations, guild banks for example, and to apply it here to a situation where no one would be the wiser is simply retarded.

I think that the defining difference is probably that in the case of the PvP tournaments, there's money on the line, whereas with guild banks it's at best name recognition through faster content consumption.

That said, having seen both sides(super-restrictive account transfer policies in Blizzard's model and completely free-form in EVE), I prefer the freeform model.