It's a matter of focus. People spec for what they want to be best at, and in this case, the focus is PvE. I don't understand why it's difficult to understand. o_O
Okay, why is the focus of a casual player automatically PVE?
is this thread about Hamlet or casual Arena in general?
I took it as people who are PvE specced and will do Arena casually. As someone else pointed out, paladins can be specced for PvE and still be rather properly specced for PvP. Whereas a 10/48/3 mage has neither AP nor ice block -- having one or both of those tools is a huge difference. A priest specced for PvE will likely not have Blessed Resilience nor Blessed Recovery, etc etc. I think the assumption is these types of players are not interested in doing a respec on a weekly basis.
I took it as people who are PvE specced and will do Arena casually. As someone else pointed out, paladins can be specced for PvE and still be rather properly specced for PvP. Whereas a 10/48/3 mage has neither AP nor ice block -- having one or both of those tools is a huge difference. A priest specced for PvE will likely not have Blessed Resilience nor Blessed Recovery, etc etc. I think the assumption is these types of players are not interested in doing a respec on a weekly basis.
I agree. Deep fire is a very poor arena spec. The first time you might get away with it but the second time they WILL focus fire you. And it is near impossible to keep a mage up when multiple DPSers, especially ranged, are hitting you. So unless you have extremely good gear be prepared to die - a lot.
As for gearing up I would blow some of your arena points. Especially on the robe as you already pointed out, and then get a second piece for the resilience bonus. Even if they update the sets soon, you are unlikely to get more than 3 pieces immediately so the old gear is not going to waste. And we don't even know how big the upgrade will be, when it will happen and what it will cost. Also, your better gear might help increase your rating and get you more points - gotta spend money to make money.
0% - .5%: Gladiator (+ ein gepanzerter Netherdrache der über die Ingamepost verschickt wird)
.5% - 3%: Duellant
3% - 10%: Rivale
10% - 35%: Herausforderer
Off topic, but whoa that's crazy. I was under the impression that the arena titles were supposed to be prestigeous, and now they've decided to give 35% of all the teams a title?
A priest specced for PvE will likely not have Blessed Resilience nor Blessed Recovery, etc etc. I think the assumption is these types of players are not interested in doing a respec on a weekly basis.
I can get away with it, but my guild isn't exactly hardcore PvErs. The Priest PvE talents that seem to make the biggest difference is Disc up to Meditation, cheaper Gheal, and Spiritual Healing. After that you still have plenty of points to mess around with getting Blessed Resilience or even some grinding talents (which I need to rid myself of, now that I have a Druid alt to do my farming for me).
Post patch I'll be doing 28/33 (link) and my ability to heal will remain the same, which is fine for the admittedly limited raiding I do.
The two points in Blessed Recovery can be thrown into Guidance or some more crit, the healing it really does in the Arena is not likely to change the outcome of a focused attack. Focused Power is going to reduce the cast time of Mass Dispel by a full second, so I figure that will be worth taking for PvP at least. I guess that might see some use for Aran before his Arcane AE.
Off topic, but whoa that's crazy. I was under the impression that the arena titles were supposed to be prestigeous, and now they've decided to give 35% of all the teams a title?
Because.... Stone Guard or Champion was just as prestigeous as High Warlord?
I dunno about Mal'Ganis, but like 99% of the Rank 14s i've seen are idiots.
That wasn't even the point, the point is the very top title is still 0.5%, so it's not like you're going to have 30% of the arena populace running around with the same title.
Off topic, but whoa that's crazy. I was under the impression that the arena titles were supposed to be prestigeous, and now they've decided to give 35% of all the teams a title?
Would you honestly walked around as Challenger Weigraf instead of say Conqueror Weigraf or whatever pvp rank you have? As someone else said I wouldn't even bother with the last 2 titles tbh, in line for the Duelist title at the moment which is better than Knight Lt heh.
Honestly, everyone should be part of an arena PVP team. It doesn't matter which bracket you're part of. I realize Blizzard puts more emphasis on PVE with new content, but I'm just as excited about my arena teams and our games as I am about the Black Temple. Grab a friend! Who cares if you are 1300 rated and go 1-9 some week. The PVP element of this game will make you a better overall player than if you solely focused on raiding.
Sigil-Laced Boots stacked with +9staminas or solid stars if you can stomach the cost are actually almost on par with the epic BG boots. Boar's speed is probably the enchant to get.
Also, If for instance T4 chests are cheap in your guild, they are decent for PVP. Decent stamina, especially after the patch + 3x sockets for solid star or elunes and a decent 2-part set-bonus. Ofc, they can't stand against arena chest, but atleast I socketed my T4 chest with solid stars for PVP use 'till I can get my PVP chest.
Of course, already mentioned Unyielding Girdle + even the bracers with SSOE + +12sta enchant can lift your stamina higher. BG neck and cloak on the otherhand seem to be unmatched in strength from honor gear.
I'm also using Trousers of Oblivion with the cheap spellthread. While you loose the stamina compared to arena legs, they have almost the same amount of stamina, and again... Arena legs are on waiting list once my 2x combat dagger rogues + firemage team manages to get enough points for them.
I believe casual and hardcore with respect to the arena would be how much preparation you put into it.
Casual would be no prep outside the arenas, very little bgs to get the honor gear, using a pve spec, and playing 10-20 games a week.
Hardcore would involve farming gear extensively to help with arenas, speccing purely for arenas, practicing, and playing frequently.
Sure there are gradients, but you can't ignore the time spent outside of arenas in preparation for arenas.
Pretty much what I do at the moment, I got the two pieces from Halaa the spirit shard gear and made my own gems for the gear and that's it. Joined a likeminded guild team (that dont spec out of their pvp specs either) and we are winning 50/50 and border on the 1500 rating.
Honestly, everyone should be part of an arena PVP team. It doesn't matter which bracket you're part of. I realize Blizzard puts more emphasis on PVE with new content, but I'm just as excited about my arena teams and our games as I am about the Black Temple. Grab a friend! Who cares if you are 1300 rated and go 1-9 some week. The PVP element of this game will make you a better overall player than if you solely focused on raiding.
I think everyone should be part of an arena team too. I've never been more than a casual pvper, it was always just something I did for fun now and then. We put together a 5v5 team several weeks ago, only to play our 10 games a week. We just wanted to collect some points, and 5v5 gives the most points per week. After a few weeks, we noticed that our rating had risen up to 1550. We were happy enough that our team wasn't a complete flop. When we broke 1600 rating, we started to get excited. As of last week, we were up to 1650 and had beaten a few 1700+ rated teams (and feeling a bit proud). I know for many reading this is small potatoes, but we're just casual pvpers. We don't respec for pvp (our main healer is often a ret pally ), and we still only play the minimum number of games per week. But despite being casual about arena, it's opened up this whole other aspect of wow for us. We've started running battlegrounds for honor rewards when 2.1 comes out, and we get excited when someone on the team gets a new gladiator piece. It's really quite fun.
I've been eyeing the legs from the Opera event for some time. And it's gettin' a pretty big buff. Having three gem slots (hello triplet solid star of elunes!) on the Trial-Fire Trousers with massive stam, int and spell damage... this definitely rivals the Glad Leggings.
We've been so unlucky with the Opera so far... only one pair has dropped so far. =(
05/15/07, 4:33 PM
After a few weeks, we noticed that our rating had risen up to 1550. We were happy enough that our team wasn't a complete flop. When we broke 1600 rating, we started to get excited. As of last week, we were up to 1650 and had beaten a few 1700+ rated teams (and feeling a bit proud). I know for many reading this is small potatoes, but we're just casual pvpers. We don't respec for pvp (our main healer is often a ret pally 
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