Resilience mitigating 1.67 times 'intended' crit dmg reduction - Page 4

Zerakor · 06/22/07, 5:51 PM

Originally Posted by Solipse

This is realistically only fair if they disallow gearswapping anything but trinkets and weapons in the arena as it penalizes warlock/shadow priest 2v2 and 3v3 teams far too much. Remove the ability to swap into resist gear and then whatever changes that can be made to dots to apply resilience effects to them are completely fair. Effecting dots by resilience and allow people to stack SR as well and you destroy that teamup.

All other casters are affected by resilience and resistance to though, and SR is actually a really hard stat to boost with a decent kit pre-BT.

It's the same answer on the public forums and here, and I frankly think people are overestimating the resistance gear. Provided the dot gets through, you will still get full 75% 50% 75% etc damage, but your other stats will be very gimped, leaving you at disadvantage again. Also, a gear set with proper resilience and resistance would leave you defenseless and without any offensive stats whatsoever.

Atashi · 07/12/07, 2:26 AM

Just to update this thread, Blizzard has listed this issue in the "known issues" thread AND said that it will be fixed! Blue said that it's been listed as a known issue for a while, but I hadn't heard that from anyone else. Anyway, here's the snip:

Spells, Talents, & Abilities

* Critical strike damage reduction percentage gained from resilience rating increases as the attacking player gains more +critical strike damage bonus talents.

Kaubel · 07/12/07, 2:49 PM

Thanks?

Upcoming changes to address resistance/resilience issues

Tiiki · 07/13/07, 2:08 PM

So can someone tell me how they imagine the change mentioned in the notes will affect resilience?

Currently, am I right in thinking: I hit for 1000, crit for 2000, it gets reduced by (say) 20% to 1600, then it applies the 30% lethality bonus for 2080 dmg?

And with the fix, I'll crit for 2300 which will then be reduced by 20% to 1080?

So is this another nerf for rogues (and slightly for warriors), or have a got the complete wrong end of the stick?

EDIT: reading more around this topic on the official boards it looks like a small buff for rogues and quite a big one for AP mages? I'm just not sure how the maths makes it work out that way

Kaelis · 07/13/07, 2:32 PM

Originally Posted by Tiiki

So can someone tell me how they imagine the change mentioned in the notes will affect resilience?

Currently, am I right in thinking: I hit for 1000, crit for 2000, it gets reduced by (say) 20% to 1600, then it applies the 30% lethality bonus for 2080 dmg?

And with the fix, I'll crit for 2300 which will then be reduced by 20% to 1080?

So is this another nerf for rogues (and slightly for warriors), or have a got the complete wrong end of the stick?

EDIT: reading more around this topic on the official boards it looks like a small buff for rogues and quite a big one for AP mages? I'm just not sure how the maths makes it work out that way

I think it's like this:

Currently you hit for 1000, crit for 2000, reduced to 1600, then only the 600 bonus damage gets 30% more for a total of 1780.

The fix will probably make you crit for 2300 which will be reduced by 20% to 1840. So 60 more damage than before.

Tiiki · 07/13/07, 7:15 PM

Ahh, that sounds right, thanks