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Old 06/14/07, 3:45 PM   #126
Latham
Von Kaiser
 
Human Warrior
 
Tichondrius
Looks like we'll know the new season 2 gear anytime now today. With the new items being updated so close to the expected date of June 19th you think they're going to push the start date back once again to say June 26th and later?

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Old 06/14/07, 5:40 PM   #127
Weigraf
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Blood Elf Paladin
 
Grim Batol (EU)
So I was just on the test realm and the new items are there. The arena items are, as far as I could see, the same as before with an slight upgrade, i.e no caster shields The new honor rewards are bracer, belt, boots, ring and necklace. There's an healer, caster dps and melee version of all the items.

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Old 06/14/07, 5:42 PM   #128
Crossbones
Don Flamenco
 
Blood Elf Paladin
 
Shattered Hand
PTR is up with new gear. I'm sure links will appear shortly if they haven't already but there's healing honor gear for all the offslots except cloak.

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Old 06/14/07, 5:54 PM   #129
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Moonrunner
Some of the new weapons








2 handers were 126 DPS

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Old 06/14/07, 5:56 PM   #130
 Lanky
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Mal'Ganis
Awwww they put EPheonix's bow in, good stuff! Can we get some hits on that healing off-slot gear through honor?

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Old 06/14/07, 6:04 PM   #131
Crossbones
Don Flamenco
 
Blood Elf Paladin
 
Shattered Hand
http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.ph...af&topic=310.0

links to the new arena gear

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Old 06/14/07, 6:23 PM   #132
• Zoid
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Mal'Ganis
I managed to get on and get pics of all the gear. It was fun healing myself between screenshots: http://zoid.shackspace.com/Season2

It has all the weapons and all the paladin armor.

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Old 06/14/07, 6:24 PM   #133
Stommp
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Tauren Warrior
 
Cho'gall
Anyone able to check out the honor gear? Bracers, boots, belt?

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Old 06/14/07, 6:44 PM   #134
• Zoid
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Mal'Ganis
http://zoid.shackspace.com/Honor2 New honor rewards vendor items is up now too.

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Old 06/14/07, 6:56 PM   #135
Stommp
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Cho'gall
Originally Posted by Zoid View Post
http://zoid.shackspace.com/Honor2 New honor rewards vendor items is up now too.
Awesome thanks Zoid!

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Old 06/14/07, 7:02 PM   #136
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Sargeras
Ahh so the armor is the same price as arena season 1 stuff, but the weapons have gone up in cost. Now that's interesting.

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Old 06/14/07, 7:19 PM   #137
Shaker
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Elune
Weapon prices look the same to me - 2625?

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Old 06/14/07, 7:22 PM   #138
Weigraf
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Blood Elf Paladin
 
Grim Batol (EU)
Originally Posted by Shaker View Post
Weapon prices look the same to me - 2625?
For some reason the picture hosted on mmo-champion shows the season two weapons as more expensive, but every other picture shows the price as the same.

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Old 06/14/07, 7:28 PM   #139
Shaker
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Elune
Not honored with Steamwheedle cartel..? :P

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Old 06/14/07, 7:38 PM   #140
• Zoid
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Mal'Ganis
Originally Posted by Stommp View Post
Awesome thanks Zoid!
Now with thumbnails and next/previous buttons for better navigation!

http://zoid.shackspace.com/Season2/
http://zoid.shackspace.com/Honor2/

It's about time I gave my shack account a workout.

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Old 06/14/07, 7:38 PM   #141
guyincorporated
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Lightbringer
Did a summary of the paladin healing set for my own purposes:

Season 1 -> Season 2:
639 AC
30 STA
7 INT
44 Healing
12 Resiliance
10 Spell Crit

Set bonuses and "gloves bonus" remained the same. /sigh.

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Old 06/14/07, 7:44 PM   #142
hip
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Blood Elf Paladin
 
Ner'zhul
Ya I'm thinking I'm just gonna get the healing mace and start working on my lamellar/scaled gear.

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Old 06/14/07, 7:47 PM   #143
Zelok
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Blood Elf Paladin
 
Dethecus
Not mine but...
Mage Summary:

+997 armor
+6 sta
-9 int
0 crit
+ 4 res
+17 sp

Not sure what to make of that.

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Old 06/14/07, 7:49 PM   #144
Ragnor
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Blackrock
Originally Posted by guyincorporated View Post
Did a summary of the paladin healing set for my own purposes:

Season 1 -> Season 2:
639 AC
30 STA
7 INT
44 Healing
12 Resiliance
10 Spell Crit

Set bonuses and "gloves bonus" remained the same. /sigh.
Yeah I did the same pretty minor upgrade at best, probably get the 1h first I suppose then maybe collect the ret set heh.

Did you mean 27int rather than 7

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Old 06/14/07, 8:09 PM   #145
hip
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Ner'zhul
Adding additional armor to cloth caster gear is actually a rather remarkable change. Assuming that you arent getting sundered, 1000 extra armor is a substantial (off the top of my head, I'd say 2-3%) damage decrease when being hit by rogues hunters and warriors. Going by a general resilience formula (where 40 res ~= 1.5% damage mitigation against physical melee classes), that armor is probably worth anywhere between 40-80 resilience when facing melee classes.

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Old 06/14/07, 8:12 PM   #146
Keline
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Mazrigos (EU)
What item level is the new honor stuff? The Belt with 959 armor is far above Karazhan 115 belt with 816.

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Old 06/14/07, 8:12 PM   #147
Shaker
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Elune
PvP people did ask to get gear more along the lines of raiders ... now it's the same thing - after the initial gearup from blue->purple, each new tier isn't really that many new stats. ;P

I'm gonna get the new gladiator weapons and start saving for S3!

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Old 06/14/07, 8:14 PM   #148
Astrik
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Night Elf Warrior
 
Doomhammer
Originally Posted by Zelok View Post
Not mine but...
Mage Summary:

+997 armor
+6 sta
-9 int
0 crit
+ 4 res
+17 sp

Not sure what to make of that.
Mage armor now has more AC than rogue armor...

Notice that on the mage armor, the AC is green, so it basically has extra stat budget added to it.

Then there is the Dot/Resilience debate which now has an official blue "We're looking into it." response.

Season 2 might be interesting.

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Old 06/14/07, 8:21 PM   #149
Zelok
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Blood Elf Paladin
 
Dethecus
Originally Posted by Astrik View Post
Notice that on the mage armor, the AC is green, so it basically has extra stat budget added to it.
Yeah I know, hence the +997, its almost 1000 more than before, its just a rather large change to go from absolutely 0 bonus armor on mage/priest/warlock gear to literally hundreds of bonus armor.

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Old 06/14/07, 8:40 PM   #150
TheOnly
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Gnome Warlock
 
Dragonblight
Originally Posted by hip View Post
Adding additional armor to cloth caster gear is actually a rather remarkable change. Assuming that you arent getting sundered, 1000 extra armor is a substantial (off the top of my head, I'd say 2-3%) damage decrease when being hit by rogues hunters and warriors. Going by a general resilience formula (where 40 res ~= 1.5% damage mitigation against physical melee classes), that armor is probably worth anywhere between 40-80 resilience when facing melee classes.
Its a lot more than 2-3%.

I'd go from ~1100 AC to 2100 Thats a change from 9% DR to 16% DR. Incoming damage goes from 91% to 84%. Thats a ~7.5% decrease in what kills me: melee damage.

Now I wish I had actually saved up points. At my current 3v3 400 points a week ..... ick. I need to get in a 5V5 and not just play casually at the bare min 10 games without practice on an unoptimal team all specced PvE.

I like the new caster ring with well balanced stats and 10 spell penatration too.

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