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Old 06/15/07, 12:07 PM   #176
gunpwdr
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Hunter
 
Shattered Hand
Summary of hunter increases:

Armor: 358
Agility: 19
Stamina: 30
Intellect: 7
Crit: 13
Res: 11
AP: 48

+2 more resilience from the head socket bonus.

Overall, an incremental upgrade.

Crossbow:

Old
204-307dmg
82.4dps
15 stam
12 crit
12 res
26 AP

New
211-318dmg
88.2dps
21 stam
15 crit
13 res
26 AP
 
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Old 06/15/07, 1:25 PM   #177
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Originally Posted by Keline View Post
Isn't the ranged slot about stats? O,o
Let's put it this way. Had a mage at about 60 hitpoints and he cast Frost Nova and blinked away, so I used Deadly Throw. He had Ice Barrier partially up (some damage had already been done) and I did a total of about 20 damage with my Xavian Stiletto. If I had been using Gladiator's War Edge, he would have been dead.

The stat gain looks to be nice because of the ilvl difference, but I want my target to be dead. Why is the Arena weapon going from a 1.90 speed to 1.30 speed, faster than even the PvE throwing weapons? That's a harsh change.

What are you waiting for, a certain shade of green?
 
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Old 06/15/07, 2:01 PM   #178
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Originally Posted by TheOnly View Post
Without the extra AC on cloth items, a T6 PvE melee class would nearly strip my AC to zero with the new PvE AC penetration gear.
A rogue wearing PvE gear in high end PvP would be bursted down faster than you can say cookiecake.
 
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Old 06/15/07, 2:56 PM   #179
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Originally Posted by Maestroquark View Post
Let's put it this way. Had a mage at about 60 hitpoints and he cast Frost Nova and blinked away, so I used Deadly Throw. He had Ice Barrier partially up (some damage had already been done) and I did a total of about 20 damage with my Xavian Stiletto. If I had been using Gladiator's War Edge, he would have been dead.

The stat gain looks to be nice because of the ilvl difference, but I want my target to be dead. Why is the Arena weapon going from a 1.90 speed to 1.30 speed, faster than even the PvE throwing weapons? That's a harsh change.
If you had had 20 more AP, the mage would have been dead from all your melee damage before he got to blink ^^
 
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Old 06/15/07, 2:59 PM   #180
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Smartass =p

The stats are like 6 STA, 4 Resilience, 5 Crit rating, 6 AP more, I'd rather have the extra damage on Deadly Throw honestly unless I was hurting for stats.
 
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Old 06/15/07, 3:12 PM   #181
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I'm a bit miffed about the lack of thought on Hunter set bonuses...On s1 gear, Rogues had roughly the same bonus as Hunters, -1 c/d on gouge compared to -1 c/d on concussive shot...and the Rogue bonus turned into +10 energy, a 31 point talent. However, the Hunter set bonus remains pathetic. Looks like I'll be going 2/5 and 3/5 on arena gear for the resilience. :\

Edit: Have the honor cloaks been updated from s1 status to s2? All the other epic honor rewards have been, but I haven't seen any information on the cloaks yet.
 
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Old 06/15/07, 5:47 PM   #182
Solipse
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Has anyone confirmed whether the two piece season 1 bonus and two piece season 2 bonus for the same armor set will stack? In other words, say, ornate helm+shoulders and merciless ornate gloves+chestpiece?
 
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Old 06/15/07, 5:54 PM   #183
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Don't count on it, the sets have different names.
 
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Old 06/15/07, 6:01 PM   #184
Solipse
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Blackhand
Originally Posted by Shadowed View Post
Don't count on it, the sets have different names.
I meant the bonuses, probably should have spelled it out - would the above configuration give 70 resilience or 35? Sorry, should have been more clear.
 
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Old 06/15/07, 6:16 PM   #185
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Yes they will stack like using 2 pieces of Honor and 2 pieces of Gladiator does right now.
 
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Old 06/15/07, 6:27 PM   #186
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Originally Posted by Shadowed View Post
Yes they will stack like using 2 pieces of Honor and 2 pieces of Gladiator does right now.
Figured they would, just wanted to make sure it wasn't "fixed". Thanks.
 
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Old 06/15/07, 9:08 PM   #187
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Originally Posted by Loshiis View Post
I'm a bit miffed about the lack of thought on Hunter set bonuses...On s1 gear, Rogues had roughly the same bonus as Hunters, -1 c/d on gouge compared to -1 c/d on concussive shot...and the Rogue bonus turned into +10 energy, a 31 point talent. However, the Hunter set bonus remains pathetic. Looks like I'll be going 2/5 and 3/5 on arena gear for the resilience. :\

Edit: Have the honor cloaks been updated from s1 status to s2? All the other epic honor rewards have been, but I haven't seen any information on the cloaks yet.
Agreed. I'm pretty sandy myself about the whole level of care given to arena hunters. Fortunately, I have a lot I can improve about my own play before /wrists /reroll.

Rest assured that any PVP weapon/cloak/ring/neck will NOT have any agility whatsoever
 
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Old 06/15/07, 9:28 PM   #188
Kellarus
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Draenor
Not that many people other than me care about it, but the moonkin gladiator set is still completely misdesigned. Having tons of mp5 but no spell crit makes me really confused. Can someone explain to me what the reasoning behind this might be?
 
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Old 06/16/07, 2:50 AM   #189
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Sargeras
Somebody put me at ease. I'm ranked 31st atm(2308). And there's about 15400 2vs2 teams(77 qualifiers for mounts/titles).

What are the chances between now and Tuesday of dropping...oh say....47 ranks past 77th(2205). Heh.

Reason I'm asking is, even if I wanted to 2vs2 I couldn't, partner is AWOL, until next week, and I'm by nature a very paranoid person.

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Old 06/16/07, 3:27 AM   #190
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Id say you are safe. My question is how did you come up with the number of teams in your battlegroup? I too am a bit paranoid of my teams slot, but we are both respecing slightly and gonna hit it hard this weekend. Knowing how many teams were in my battlegroup would help me judge when I felt sufficiently safe.

 
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Old 06/16/07, 3:31 AM   #191
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Mal'Ganis
Find the lowest rated person you can in 2s, ask them what ranking they got last week
 
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Old 06/16/07, 3:42 AM   #192
Emeraude
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Sargeras
Originally Posted by Huntemup View Post
Id say you are safe. My question is how did you come up with the number of teams in your battlegroup? I too am a bit paranoid of my teams slot, but we are both respecing slightly and gonna hit it hard this weekend. Knowing how many teams were in my battlegroup would help me judge when I felt sufficiently safe.
In Shadowburn I ran across this fellow

http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#c...runner&n=Norha

Another friend said they found somebody around 15400.

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Old 06/16/07, 4:42 AM   #193
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Originally Posted by Emeraude View Post
In Shadowburn I ran across this fellow

http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#c...runner&n=Norha

Another friend said they found somebody around 15400.
How are you getting team ranking from that? I just see rating and "Not Ranked" for his arena teams.

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Old 06/16/07, 4:52 AM   #194
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Uther
Is it bad that I immediately looked at my battlegroup (Vengence), found the only RP server, went to that server's guild progression and browsed through the armory's of the only alliance guild stuck on Moroes?

Came up with this chap. http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/ch...ood&n=Hydriani (1072 rating, for a ranking last week of 13506)

I feel bad for my methodology, but it seems to have worked.

OH, and Sadris. You hover over their teams rating box and it will show you their last weeks rating in the tooltip.

 
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Old 06/16/07, 5:40 AM   #195
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Originally Posted by sadris View Post
How are you getting team ranking from that? I just see rating and "Not Ranked" for his arena teams.
Hover your mouse over the arena team and is shows "Last Week's Rank"
 
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Old 06/16/07, 10:09 AM   #196
Teez
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Originally Posted by Huntemup View Post
Is it bad that I immediately looked at my battlegroup (Vengence), found the only RP server, went to that server's guild progression and browsed through the armory's of the only alliance guild stuck on Moroes?

Came up with this chap. http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/ch...ood&n=Hydriani (1072 rating, for a ranking last week of 13506)

I feel bad for my methodology, but it seems to have worked.

OH, and Sadris. You hover over their teams rating box and it will show you their last weeks rating in the tooltip.
I don't know why, but this post made me burst out in laughter.

I had a similar experience in AV the other day with some guy that kept taunting Drek'thar off me and proceeded to get two shot every time without fail. This happened 3 times in a row - he actually got battle rezzed once, and corpse ran back the next time. Didn't even bother complaining, it was just too funny to watch. His title proclaimed he was a Field Marshal at some point so I thought I'd check out his Armory, to see if maybe he was really low ranked in his guild (implying he's an alt) or whatever ... this is what I got.

http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#c...n=Steviewonder

Field Marshal and that 3v3 rating does not compute. Actually clicking on his team is even more amusing ... and yeah I'm pretty sure I found rock bottom for my battle group by coincidence this way -.-

 
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Old 06/17/07, 1:51 AM   #197
Symbul
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Al'Akir (EU)
Second-hand accounts are the usual explanation, Teez. After skimming through potential recruits for my guild I found that the "random" players floating around the servers are almost always bought(/whatever).
 
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Old 06/19/07, 8:51 AM   #198
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Boy this arena season is ending in a whimper, no WoW Front Page announcement that the season is ending, no WoW forums hype from the CMs, no recognition of the teams that got their mounts/titles, the #1 teams in each Battlegroup, I wonder if they'll even bother to achieve the season to show off who the best of the best was for the first ever arena season.

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