Lysander1

Simple question, I'm sorry if this doesn't deserve its own topic but based on the answer more discussion could be warranted.

If a Paladin Divine Shields and then dispels Unstable Affliction from a teammate, do they take damage or get silenced? If not, is this a common tactic used in Arenas?

 

vorda

No.

I'd say this depends on the team layout you'r facing. Imo usually UA isnt worth blowing your bubble for, but I'm a pretty bad pvp player so others here might give you better advice.

 

Myonax

That will remove UA without getting the damage, same with COS.

When I had UA it did about 3-4k when dispelled. It's hard to track because the damage gets counted as the dispeler's damage. A priest friend of mine just shields himself and rolls the dice with his dispels as long as he is not being focus fired.

 

Ignayshus

The only counters to UA, that I am aware of are:

Divine Shield - all dot wipe no penalty
Ice Block - all dot wipe no penalty
Fel Hunter's Devour - no penalty if UA devoured

For a priest you can Shield and ProM yourself and roll the dice dispelling, but it's not a pretty option.

The last digit of Pi is delicious.

 

wow

Fel Hunter devour makes UA blow up on the felhunter does it not?

 

Shadowed

Nope it doesn't, was tested a week or two back and nothing happens.

 

Lysander1

@Ignayshus: I'm not talking about bubbling out of UA that is on the Paladin. How viable would bubbling and dispelling a partner's UA be? After the UA is gone, your Priest can easily wipe all the other debuffs in a few casts while you heal up in bubble.

 

deathmancer

None of the mob dispels in general will proc UA (shadow labs channelers for instance). It might be an oversight on blizzards part by not marking the felhunter dispel to trigger UA or that UA itself is coded such that it won't work against a non-PC in general. However, even if it did work against a felhunter, odds are pretty good that it would get a decent partial resist with all of it's natural resistence to magic (140-238? depending on spec) and the silence is shorter then the cooldown for devour magic as well.

 

deathmancer

I think it would be better to save the bubble to get rid of a spell lock/silence/cc rather then actively using your bubble to dispel someone else.

 

Zraknul

Paladins can divine shield themselves and remove UA without taking damage or silence because they're immune to everything but mass dispel.

Is it a commonly used strategy? I don't think it's super common, it really depends on the situation. Healing is rarely the same fight to fight. Warlocks with UA tend to be pretty squishy, so do what you will with that.

 

vorda

You cant bubble when silenced/spell locked.

 

Crossbones

Paladins can only dispel 1 magic debuff at a time and affliction warlocks have a dispel resist talent IIRC. The player is probably going to have 3-4 dots including UA so bubbling specifically to counter UA probably isn't worthwhile. You might as well be cleansing if you happened to be bubbled for some other reason and no one needs immediate spam healing though.

 

Zraknul

You can bubble out of silence, you can't bubble out of a locked spell tree. IE: I'm casting and I get hit by counterspell, I can't bubble; A priest's "silence" skill, or improved CS when I'm not casting can be bubbled through.

 

Keline

It doesn't make much sense to dispell an affliction warlocks junk as a paladin, with the new secondary effect they'll load up their target with DOTs faster than you can dispell them.

 

guyincorporated

My warlock partner has started running with a spellstone in 2v2's. That clears UA without the damage/silence effect.

 

Bibdy

Either they changed it in 2.1 or your Warlock friend is crazy.

There's always free cheese in the mouse traps, but the mice there ain't happy.

 

Vazu

1. Blow some form of CS on the Warlock's shadow tree. If there's just one UA Warlock, it's very worthwhile considering all of the other bullshit you will stop them from casting. You've gotta lock him down.

2. Rogues own UA Warlocks if they aren't kited properly. Even then, it's a chore.

3. Assist and kill him. Even with 300 Resilience + and 12,000 HP, UA Warlocks are still clothies.

 

Zaq

Can also dispell the UA dispell silence effect for w/e that's worth.

"I have nothing personally invested in my own opinions. I'm just, like, inviting you to join me on the bandwagon of my own uncertainty." -Taylor Mali

 

Quixotic

Did they really changed this? I know for a fact I've killed myself with UA when I spellstoned it off in early BC.

 

Ignayshus

I wouldn't waste a bubble to try and dispel UA safely...

You're better off having yourself and the priest (since you state that you have one) both dispel until UA is proc'd and then dispel the silence on whoever proc'd it.

The last digit of Pi is delicious.

 

Darkmantle

While you can indeed try this, the sight of a priest or paladin getting hit for 3-4k is essentially a red rag to a bull for my team. Also if one is silenced and you then stun the other you have 2 healers out of commision one of whom is at 60% health and silenced.

 

Bibdy

Just tested it outside Org.

Spellstones still proc the UA silence and damage.

It MIGHT be worth taking a known 3-5k damage hit and then devouring the silence off yourself if you're worried that being completely peppered with DOTs from multiple people will eventually outright kill you.

There's always free cheese in the mouse traps, but the mice there ain't happy.

 

stampy

Mass dispel?

 

Keline

casting mass dispell in a 5on5 with everyone in your team afflicted by UA is like playing Russian roulette with 5 bullets

 

zournyque

used spellstone very often to dispell ua..was no problem :P