I just started a new arena team and my rogue partner and I (holy disc priest) are 30-5 with a 1880 ranking. My 5v5 team (2.2k) doesn't have any rogues so what im wondering is do rogues lose their effectiveness in 2v2 once you are facing 2k+ teams and everyone is fully decked out in gladiator's? Anyone here play a priest rogue team succesfully in the 2k+ area that could give me some pointers?

Once you figure out how to beat the Pal/War team, you should be good.

My arena team hovers between 2000 and 2100 on a daily basis. Most of our wins are against Rogue, Hunter, Shaman, Holy Priest, or Warrior groups. Most of our losses are to warlock/mage groups.

The key is finding out how to beat rock when you are scissors. As a war/pal combo, the only time we lose against Pri/Rogue combo is when the Rogue sticks on the Warrior the entire match and prevents him from DPSing the Priest. A full stack of Wounding Poison is absolutly gross and can deplete my mana fast. As long as I keep the Warrior above 80% the entire match, we win. It's not hard to Cleanse the poisons when he's at a high percentage.

One strategy we've been increasingly annoyed by is stacking 5x Wounding Poison on the warrior, doing decent damage. Priest starts MC and the warrior either doesn't have pummel/intercept up or the Rogue stuns warrior and blinds me so I cannot HoJ. Priest moves warrior in inconvinient location and rogue either does moderate damage on me, or manages to sap me the moment I get out of combat (I cannot apply BoS here because the Warrior is MC'd.)

It's only worked on us a few times, but the same group did it a few times. I'm not saying this is a perfect way to win, and I'm sure better teams will counter this faster than you can even think of it, but it's what nails us sometimes.

Yea pretty much what you described are what we usually use.

Attacking the Warrior first can work, but it backfires if you're not careful due to the rage + enrage procs you're feeding them, usually I save blind when doing this as a just incase move.

Going on the Paladin works depending on how smart the Warrior is, against a Dwarf Paladin it's not worth it (!#$!#$ Stoneform), some Warriors will Hamstring you right at the start of the fight and then go off to try and kill the Priest.

Using MC works pretty well, but you have to be very careful since even if you MC a Warrior with your Rogue at 20%, he still can risk dying due to a HoW or just when MC breaks.

Also, you can abuse Sap pretty easly with Dirty Tricks, Vanish and Sprint to someone and sap them, or Blind + Sap useful for the annoying teams that will stay on mounts all day to avoid being CCed.

My 2v2 plays wither Warrior / Paladin or Rogue / Paladin, depending on which teams are queueing, and we hover around 2300.

Rogues are extremely effective vs. shadow priest / warlock teams. I don't think I've lost a single match to them with the rogue in, whereas with warrior in any decent SP / Lock blows us up.

Or just check that compilation of classes on top 20 of all bgs for every bracket posted weekly on blizzard general and pvp forums.

Rogues are the third most common class i think in 2v2, and the class they group most to achieve this is a priest. After the mass dispel casttime reduction the combo is even more powerful.

What kind of Priests do you guys usually go up against? A good Priest with buffs should be at around 10,000 health and with Blessed Resilience + Blessed Recovery it's not really that easy to burn them down when you add in a Rogue being able to stun/blind.

Both classes mounted is what happens most of the time, the only way I've come up with to counter it is either sap Warrior, blind Paladin, wait for Warrior to dismount, sap Paladin and go, but it's incredibly annoying having to burn all the cooldowns at the start.

Oh, and ask the Priest to dispell BoS before I attack anyone too.

How effective going on a Paladin is depends on your Warrior completely, killing a Paladin who runs around BoFed isn't that hard, it's only when I'm hamstringed that it becomes an issue, if it's a Dwarf I'll avoid going on them as much as possible unless I can force them to burn Stoneform ahead of time with Blind.

We started to get a bit better in coordination so usually when I go on the Paladin I can call out before he bubbles, blind the Warrior and get mass dispel off before the Paladin can do that much in terms of healing.

Oh trust me, we don't kill a priest early every game. I just said *sometimes.* If the warrior gets enough MS crits and the rogue is just far enough away, and I cleanse the fear the moment it happens, and all my attacks crit, and the priest messes up a GCD... You get the idea. Either way, if a rogue isn't by his priest friend when my warrior hops on him, it becomes a very much losing battle from the onset.

One thing I really like to see is rogues who shiv a non-dot poison on the warrior before they blind him. Another is stunning the warrior when he's either him or I are low so he can't pummel Mass Dispel. Priests spamming R1 SW:P can hurt as well, since it adds another dot to dispel over poisons and also acts as an instant mana burn.

If I was still playing my rogue in TBC, I would probably stay in LOS of my healer all the time. Attack Paladin while he was in LOS. When he runs out of LOS, immediatly hop on warrior, etc. Hopping out of LOS is just HoJ and a 5-10 second loss of DPS.

You should macro Shiv as a mouse-over attack. Do that for Blind and Gouge as well if you haven't already. That way they are more flexible to the combo point system.

Eh, I can't stand using those kind of macros and in the heat of combat It's not the kind of things I want to rely on, rather just use an arena frame mod and use that to change targets, or use tab.

I hardly see how it's more flexible, unless you avoid losing CP for that it doesn't change anything, if I have no CP on a target and the Warrior is nearby i'll Shiv him regardless, but not when I'll lose 4-5 CP doing it and my healer isn't in danger.

That's the point, you don't build CP on targets you're not targetting so you don't lose combo points for doing so.

Mouseover macros don't work, though it'd be nice if they did.