I know many people have experienced rated matches being bugged out, like in this example:


Now that was actually the second game we had against that team, first one also didn't count. (same scoreboard error), so when we lost again, I joked "You won't be getting any points anyways", to which they replied "why should we get points for skirmish?" to which I replied (visible) "we signed up for a rated game" and they replied that they did not.

I'm not quite sure if this warrants its own thread but imho it is a huge issue. Out of 12 games today, 4 were not counted and this isn't a particular unlucky day for us.

This has happened to us about 10 times in the past few weeks. I asked a GM, and they said it was intended that you get 0 points against teams that were low rated enough, which I didn't buy. Our warrior speculated this is what was happening.

Did the GM also say that it's intended that the 0 point game doesn't even count in the statistic?

Yes there is the possibility of getting 0 rating if the rating disparity is big enough, and its also true that it won't count in the stats. Don't know if the second part is intended or not.

On the same note, on some 0 rating games the scorescreen can bug out, showing that your team loses 17k rating as the lowest integral or somesuch (comp sci friend mentioned this).

I had this happen twice after the most recent patch (both on that patch day). I believe it is an error with the matchmaking system. Also the chances of facing a team you'd get 0 points from would seem phenomenally low, wouldn't that require something like a 2000+ team facing a 1000 rated team for it to not be worth even one point?

no, per 25 points difference in rating, 1 point differs from the average 15. So 15*25 = 375. So if you have 2175 rating, a team with less than 1800 will not give you any points.

However, in my example we lost and our rating is less than 375 below the #1 team (and those guys were not the #1 team anyways), so they should have received points for these wins.

We've had it happen, even where we've faced people from multiple servers. It said we recieved points and we got nothing. I reported it, and the gm told me that there was an issue where points weren't showing up on your screen, and we actually got the points. We didn't.

The worst part here is how GMs straight up lie to us

Have you observed any teams doing that repeatedly? This doesn't appear to be related to what happened in our case

Have people been noticing queues taking longer when you disconnect, but pop right after? Could also be related to something like that.

I don't think they lie intentionally, they just have no idea whats going on so they give you the best answer they possibly can without saying "I don't know." This sounds like a pretty serious issue though...

The 2 GMs I talked to seemed to have no idea what was going on, so I stopped pressing the issue.

Yes. We've beaten top 10 teams who we straight up whored and they all yell to us enjoy the 0 points, right before they are all beaten, and sure enough, bam! Zero points. It also explains their ridiculously high ratings with virtually no losses.

Armory links?

Every time we've ever seen this bug, it was after waiting in queue for 5+ minutes. We'd end up playing against some random scrubby group probably rated 1700 or something. We're 2546. I've never heard of anyone being able to willingly make it a 0 point game, and if they could, they'd be incredibly stupid to flaunt it to you like that.

This bug is indeed a strange one, my 5v5 team faced this bug against the same team three times in a row (being in a small battlegroup) we got no rating from the first two matches we played, but won 1 rating the third game, but the bug was still there, causing us to play three games where two games weren't counted into the win/loss of our team.

Weird stuff..

Had this happen nearly a dozen times in the past 2 weeks or so. Once it was the same team doing the exact same thing which certainly seemed to cause it to happen on demand 3-4 times in a row.

After several petitions I got a useful GM who understood what I was telling him who was going to 'personally investigate it'. Not that I'm putting much faith into that but meh worth a try when it at least seemed that it was an obvious exploit.

Going to avoid posting the details of what I believe to be the way to replicate this just in case it really does work.

The 0 rating gain is not a bug... if you've been in queue for long enough (usually 5-7mins+) it will match you up with virtually anyone. That's been working as intended for a long time and as far as I can tell, that's not what's being discussed here.

The problem being discussed is people playing and beating teams that have a *higher* rating than them are not getting any credit for it. It also seems like some teams can do it on command, so if they think the game is going bad for them, they can just turn it into a skirmish rather than a rated game. Aka, BIG PROBLEM.

I think you should test and post details here if it is a workable exploit.

The more and faster it's abused, the quicker Blizzard will fix it. Instead of it benefiting teams 'in the know' for an indeterminate period. You can't assume Blizzard already know about things like this.

This is just going to be speculation, but it might have something to do with kicking a player off the team when they see they are going to lose?
Might be a glitch, making the game believe it was a skirmish since all the players was not in the same arena team?

We had a questionable 3v3 game tonight against a 2x warlock shadowpriest team. They got sloppy with their felhunter control and after the initial staredown of sorts we actually fell back all the way into the spawn around the corner and killed both felhunters, and ultimately went on to win that game. Except the final scoreboard had no rating column at all, and the game didn't register on our record. We weren't even queued for longer than a minute, the 3v3 queues were moving quite fast. It seems very suspcious to me, as I've only ever seen this happen after sitting around in the queue for 5+ minutes, never under these circumstances.

Well, assuming there is a known exploit about this, would you expect the GM to come and say

"Sorry, it appears your opponent team cheated by disconnecting while in queue/in the arena and therefore rendered the match ratings void"?

First of all, they'd be admitting the game's own weaknesses, and secondly, they'd be revealing what it it that triggers this kind of error, and that would encourage abuse. But still, a straightforward "it's a known bug, it's being looked at" or "we have no ideea what happened" would be better than giving false information...

Although I can't say for certain, we've been doing 5v5 this week and against one of the top ranked in our battlegroup, if they win they get points from us, but whenever we win, they lose 0 points and it's a none-rated game apparently.

This has happened the 4 times we have beat them, yet the 4 times we lost to them it was a rated game...

I obviously can't say they're exploiting for sure, but it is rather annoying and suspicious.