Eak

oh sorry, that was too short indeed. Thank you

So Lifebloom is very tricky to handle. I think your strategy could work anyway, if you do not chain-dispell, but do it in a period of about 3-4 seconds. The druid has to recast several HoTs / 'stacks of lifebloom' to keep his warrior alive. If you let him stack three lifebloom (would be perfect) and then dispell them, he had lost two GCDs for even less healing done.

 

Borland

yeap.

 

syeren

Although I'm going to keep this brief, Resto Druid and Affliction Warlock along with Resto Shaman and Rogue are the complete counters to this set up, of course this may become a little more difficult if your opposition is the optimal race set up (Me being a Dwarf has won me games against the latter composition,) but if they are competent it should be an easy job regardless.

Just remember that you're playing against a class setup which is 100% skill based of those players, and try and pick apart their play style by enduring the Mage's bolts while line of sighting the Priest's Mana Burn. But if you're a Warrior / Paladin set up, it's probably just better to keel over and die quicker :P

 

Iscariot

Im in a 2v2 team atm with a feral druid and 41 point frost mage and priest/druid is our absolutely worst match up atm. Were in the 1750-1800 range and the closest we can get to winning is for me to kill the partner as quickly as possible. What usualy happens is the priest dies then about 5 seconds later my druid partner gets killed by the mage and im up against a frost mage as combat - i can just never, ever win, it seems completely hopeless at the moment.

Is feral druid just a complete no-go nowadays? We play sporadically throughout the week so if he went resto it would mean respeccing multiple times each week most likely. Though if resto is that much better then it might be worth it. How does resto druid / combat rogue fair against other matchups?

Edit: ive tried being sub with prep etc etc and the drop in damage is hideous. Plus even prep seems pretty week nowadays when tbh most matchups i never find myself wanting another sprint or vanish.

 

DecimusGarona

Double melee DPS is never going to win against an equally skilled kiting/control team.

 

Borland

Except if the druid is smart enough to pop out of stealth with pounce , then shift and chain cyclone until one is dead.

 

DecimusGarona

Let us assume that you are going to pounce the priest... That is a 4 second stun, and we'll assume that you follow it up with a 6 second cyclone perfectly, for 10 seconds of the priest not being able to do anything. Now you are telling me that in those 10 seconds, a rogue was able to kill a frost mage solo? Or with minimal help from the druid at least, since I'm going to assume that the frost mage and priest weren't standing right next to each other. This is even ignoring the PvP trinket. Even if you want to land another 3 second cyclone after this, the priest is going to 100% guaranteed get off either a PoM or shield. Let us also keep in mind that at any point here the mage can ice block for a guaranteed 10 seconds of safety while waiting for the priest to break out of CC. Unless the mage is retarded, he is also going to be sheeping the rogue, and/or the druid. Yes, a smart mage will polymorph a feral druid in caster form, because it forces him to shift in and out wasting precious mana.

The only way to guarantee that the priest can't heal the mage is to rotate cyclone between the two targets, and then you are burning DRs on two targets at once, and the druid is pretty much occupied for the entire duration of the cyclone spam, leaving the rogue as the only DPS. Of course, the mage could always CS the cyclone at any point here.

On the other hand, the druid could open up with pounce on the mage, forcing him to blink... Then chain cyclone him for 10.5 seconds of CC, assuming the mage can't get a CS off in between breaking out of cyclone. The druid might be able to interrupt the first sheep with a feral charge, and the second with a bash, for *maybe* another 5 seconds worth of preventing polymorph. Possibly if the druid is really good he can get out a maim interrupt as well, for another couple of seconds Add in another few seconds from immunity due to cloak of shadows. If the rogue tries to follow up with a blind to the mage, the mage can simply ice block or PvP trinket out of it. At this point the DR on cyclone is probably available, but shifting into caster to try to get it off is just begging to be counterspelled, and the rogue is pretty much guaranteed to be sheeped at this point. Somehow I doubt that a rogue is going to be able to kill a decently geared/skilled arena priest in 30 seconds, especially once the druid is forced to melee the mage for interrupts, and cause PoM to start bouncing. It is also worth noting that at any point the druids CC chain could easily be interrupted with a trinket, iceblock or fear from the priest, and if at any point the mage succeeds in landing a polymorph on the rogue the game is essentially over.

 

Lamigra

You must be bad

 

DecimusGarona

Click my armory link, my 2v2 is rated higher than yours and we're in the same battlegroup. If I'm bad, then what does that make you? You might want to reserve your awesome trolling skills for the WoW forums.

 

clancy

I don't see how the priest could be chain dispelling the warrior when the warrior is on him. Since most resto druids have 3/5 subtley (reduce the chance of dispelling by 18%), some might get 5/5. It's really hard to dispell HoT's off while trying to survive the warrior. Since dispelling takes up a GC. Also most resto druids hardly cast Healing touch in arenas, the only thing you could probably cs is a cyclone which also interrupts his heals

 

Lamigra

Look at the 2 other characters on my 2v2 team...they would by my alts. Attempted flame lost

 

Lamigra

lol your 2v2 is 1918...when our mains do our 7 games for the week we will prolly be 1900+ you lose lol. Fyi me and gaeowyn were one of the top 2v2 teams last season so NT.

 

◊ Gwaihir

You must be new here.. I would take a look at the forum rules, because judging by your last few posts you seem to have mistaken this board for the WoW general cesspit.

 

◊ Kaubel

Stop posting. Oh wait, you're permabanned and can't read this.

 

Mana

Looking for some advice with my 2v2 team if anyone can help. It consists of me (combat mace rogue) and frost mage. I know that this is not the most popular or top tier team makeup, but we have gotten to 1817 since last week. However, we are having considerably more trouble once we hit this 1800 range and played roughly 40 games to be slightly under breaking even. Anyone have any advice to help break through this barrier we are hitting?

 

Spades

Well, which teams are killing you?

"Existence has no pattern save what we imagine after staring at it for too long."
-Rorschach, Watchmen

 

Mana

me? we had the most trouble with shadow priest/lock. Think we lost to Shaman/rogue as well. The usual paladin/warrior sometimes gives us trouble although we have been winning against that somehow, but we didnt get any of those this week for some odd reason.

 

Borland

Lock+shadow priest - when you see them comming out - let your mage show up and run back asap - once they run towards him to dot - thats the time where rogue sap one and you both annihilate the other.
If the saped gets out using trnk - blind asap.
Another important thing is - COUNTERSPELL/KICK THE WARLOCK SHADOW TREE - esp if he is affiction.
That leaves him with no CC trics.
Also - having an additional offhand weapon for fast swap + apply mind numb and then switch back to cripling/wound - can help against shaman healing.