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Old 07/20/07, 3:06 AM   #31
Borland
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Except if the druid is smart enough to pop out of stealth with pounce , then shift and chain cyclone until one is dead.

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Old 07/20/07, 11:13 AM   #32
DecimusGarona
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Originally Posted by Borland View Post
Except if the druid is smart enough to pop out of stealth with pounce , then shift and chain cyclone until one is dead.
Let us assume that you are going to pounce the priest... That is a 4 second stun, and we'll assume that you follow it up with a 6 second cyclone perfectly, for 10 seconds of the priest not being able to do anything. Now you are telling me that in those 10 seconds, a rogue was able to kill a frost mage solo? Or with minimal help from the druid at least, since I'm going to assume that the frost mage and priest weren't standing right next to each other. This is even ignoring the PvP trinket. Even if you want to land another 3 second cyclone after this, the priest is going to 100% guaranteed get off either a PoM or shield. Let us also keep in mind that at any point here the mage can ice block for a guaranteed 10 seconds of safety while waiting for the priest to break out of CC. Unless the mage is retarded, he is also going to be sheeping the rogue, and/or the druid. Yes, a smart mage will polymorph a feral druid in caster form, because it forces him to shift in and out wasting precious mana.

The only way to guarantee that the priest can't heal the mage is to rotate cyclone between the two targets, and then you are burning DRs on two targets at once, and the druid is pretty much occupied for the entire duration of the cyclone spam, leaving the rogue as the only DPS. Of course, the mage could always CS the cyclone at any point here.

On the other hand, the druid could open up with pounce on the mage, forcing him to blink... Then chain cyclone him for 10.5 seconds of CC, assuming the mage can't get a CS off in between breaking out of cyclone. The druid might be able to interrupt the first sheep with a feral charge, and the second with a bash, for *maybe* another 5 seconds worth of preventing polymorph. Possibly if the druid is really good he can get out a maim interrupt as well, for another couple of seconds Add in another few seconds from immunity due to cloak of shadows. If the rogue tries to follow up with a blind to the mage, the mage can simply ice block or PvP trinket out of it. At this point the DR on cyclone is probably available, but shifting into caster to try to get it off is just begging to be counterspelled, and the rogue is pretty much guaranteed to be sheeped at this point. Somehow I doubt that a rogue is going to be able to kill a decently geared/skilled arena priest in 30 seconds, especially once the druid is forced to melee the mage for interrupts, and cause PoM to start bouncing. It is also worth noting that at any point the druids CC chain could easily be interrupted with a trinket, iceblock or fear from the priest, and if at any point the mage succeeds in landing a polymorph on the rogue the game is essentially over.

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Old 07/20/07, 4:06 PM   #33
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You must be bad

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Old 07/20/07, 4:16 PM   #34
DecimusGarona
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Originally Posted by Lamigra View Post
You must be bad
Click my armory link, my 2v2 is rated higher than yours and we're in the same battlegroup. If I'm bad, then what does that make you? You might want to reserve your awesome trolling skills for the WoW forums.

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Old 07/20/07, 4:17 PM   #35
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Originally Posted by Borland View Post
We found a way to beat warrior + druid teams.
Mainly its sheep/mind controll to get range , then we both start nuking (no cooldowns yet) on the warrior - we know there is a druid somewhere , who will pop with 4k ht and will have swiftmend and NS heal - we dont realy care.
We continue dps the warrior - the moment druid pops out , the priest dots him and i target focus him.
Then we continue dpsing/slowing the warrior , the priest is constantly dispelling the hots off the warrior , and i am watching the druid for a healing touch - eventualy he blows off all his instant heals and his hots arent ticking , so everything he is left is to start Healing touch , i wait 1 second to be sure its not a fake and then counterspell + all cooldowns on the warrior.
The priest is BE and can silence the druid too if he is close enough.
I don't see how the priest could be chain dispelling the warrior when the warrior is on him. Since most resto druids have 3/5 subtley (reduce the chance of dispelling by 18%), some might get 5/5. It's really hard to dispell HoT's off while trying to survive the warrior. Since dispelling takes up a GC. Also most resto druids hardly cast Healing touch in arenas, the only thing you could probably cs is a cyclone which also interrupts his heals

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Old 07/20/07, 4:18 PM   #36
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Originally Posted by DecimusGarona View Post
Click my armory link, my 2v2 is rated higher than yours and we're in the same battlegroup. If I'm bad, then what does that make you? You might want to reserve your awesome trolling skills for the WoW forums.
Look at the 2 other characters on my 2v2 team...they would by my alts. Attempted flame lost

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Old 07/20/07, 4:24 PM   #37
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lol your 2v2 is 1918...when our mains do our 7 games for the week we will prolly be 1900+ you lose lol. Fyi me and gaeowyn were one of the top 2v2 teams last season so NT.

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Old 07/20/07, 4:30 PM   #38
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You must be new here.. I would take a look at the forum rules, because judging by your last few posts you seem to have mistaken this board for the WoW general cesspit.

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Old 07/20/07, 5:53 PM   #39
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Originally Posted by Lamigra View Post
lol your 2v2 is 1918...when our mains do our 7 games for the week we will prolly be 1900+ you lose lol. Fyi me and gaeowyn were one of the top 2v2 teams last season so NT.
Stop posting. Oh wait, you're permabanned and can't read this.

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Old 07/28/07, 4:33 PM   #40
Mana
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Looking for some advice with my 2v2 team if anyone can help. It consists of me (combat mace rogue) and frost mage. I know that this is not the most popular or top tier team makeup, but we have gotten to 1817 since last week. However, we are having considerably more trouble once we hit this 1800 range and played roughly 40 games to be slightly under breaking even. Anyone have any advice to help break through this barrier we are hitting?

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Old 07/29/07, 9:45 AM   #41
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Well, which teams are killing you?

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Old 07/29/07, 12:51 PM   #42
Mana
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me? we had the most trouble with shadow priest/lock. Think we lost to Shaman/rogue as well. The usual paladin/warrior sometimes gives us trouble although we have been winning against that somehow, but we didnt get any of those this week for some odd reason.

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Old 07/30/07, 8:20 AM   #43
Borland
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Lock+shadow priest - when you see them comming out - let your mage show up and run back asap - once they run towards him to dot - thats the time where rogue sap one and you both annihilate the other.
If the saped gets out using trnk - blind asap.
Another important thing is - COUNTERSPELL/KICK THE WARLOCK SHADOW TREE - esp if he is affiction.
That leaves him with no CC trics.
Also - having an additional offhand weapon for fast swap + apply mind numb and then switch back to cripling/wound - can help against shaman healing.

Last edited by Borland : 07/30/07 at 8:41 AM.

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