Greetings.

I am relatively new to the hunter class but I have played this game for awhile experiencing pretty much all of the PVE aspects and most of the PVP aspects. Arena, however, is somewhat of an area where I am inexperienced. Couple this with my inexperience with a couple of the lesser used hunter talents and I just have a few questions regarding how to specialize. I would prefer if you have experience with certain talents to please share them so I can help build my spec. Oh, and currently I'm speccing 41/20 BM/Marks for PVE and then speccing to 0/41/20 for Arenas over the weekend. If you have success as either mainly survival or mainly Beast (in the high end arena game) please feel free to share, but most of my questions will be towards a marks heavy build as I fulfill a CC/spell interrupt slot in my team's arena group.

--Improved Stings. The PVE'er in me scoffs in disgust that I'm even considering getting this. Initially I thought it was terrible for arena as well, but I've been wanting to try it out actually. In our arena games, I'm Viper Stinging a healer pretty much every time the cooldown is up, and our games are either over before bloodlust is up or last 3-4 minutes. 30% more mana drained + the 30% reduced chance to dispel means more mana lost and more global cooldowns used to dispel it. Of course if I did actually put points into this talent I'd have to really think about what I wanted to give up. Anyone have any opinion on this?

-- I guess the other things I'm wondering are just what other hunters are running around with. This week I tried something completely new (I don't think in my entire WoW career I've ever specced 100% for PvP) and came up with this:
Marks:
5/5 Imp Concussive
5/5 Lethal Shots
1/1 Aimed Shot
2/2 Rapid Killing
2/2 GFTT
5/5 Mortal Shots
3/3 Barrage
1/1 Scatter Shot
2/5 Concussive Barrage (Sounded like it would be decent when I decided to try and spec solely for arena, but I'm not really sure I see much benefit from it. Although to be honest, most of the time it procs I probably don't even notice)
5/5 Ranged Wep Spec
3/3 Imp Barrage
1/1 TSA
5/5 Master Marksman
1/1 Silencing Shot
41 Points

Survival:
3/3 Humanoid Slaying
2/2 Savage Strikes (pretty sure next week I am going to get Hawk Eye instead of Savage Strikes as I actually get BoFreedom/frost trap entrapment to get myself out of melee range very often)
3/3 Entrapment
3/3 Imp Wing Clip
5/5 Survivalist
1/1 Deterrence (I actually love this ability but I always forget to use it!)
3/3 Surefooted
20 Points

Like I said, I'll probably be experimenting with new builds each week, but I was just wondering if anyone had success with particular talents or builds that apply only to the arena game and wouldn't really sound useful outside of an arena.

Thanks in advance.

As the poster above me said, get imp stings. It's one of the best arena talents.

Efficiency is very good if you plan on running 5v5 primarily. Probably depends on your team a lot though, we were a fairly defensive team (hunter/mage/paladin/warrior/priest) so we had a lot of longer games where mana became more of an issue.
By speccing into imp stings + efficiency, you can take those points out of concussive barrage, which isn't very good, and move points from RWS into Careful Aim. Even in PvP gear, Careful Aim will do more for your topend than RWS will. I also would skip GFTT and Rapid Killing. I had these early in the season, but those points are better spent elsewhere.
Hawk Eye is very useful, I would recommend that over improved wing clip.

For pure auto shot only dps which is better:

2/3 careful aim (30% int = ap translates to ~60ap wearing full gladiator/pvp reward gear)

or an extra 2 points in ranged weapon spec (2% ranged damage)

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=mZEMboEzhRstcuh0tc is the spec I was thinking about.

Careful Aim is better.

No, not really. Not at all, in fact.

Assuming 200 int, 2 points in each:

60 AP = ~4.25 DPS = 13.71 damage per auto-shot(3.1 speed weapon), 9 per arcane, ~12 per multi(pre-talents)

2 points in RWS is 2% damage. I don't know about you, but even in my PvP gear, My auto-shot's average damage is above 685 (and would be way beyond this if I had a real PvP weapon), my arcane's is well above 450, and my multi's is FAR above 600(pre-talents).

RWS > CA, unless you happen to be PvP'ing with a ton more int than your average hunter.

Screenshot your paper doll.

Respec.

Refer back to screenshot.

EDIT: This doesn't even take into account Steady Shot, which sees huge gains with Careful Aim over RWS.

You have not compared with PvP gear.

2pts in CA and 1 pt in RWS: http://img529.imageshack.us/my.php?i...7161849ae8.jpg

0pts in CA and 3 pts in RWS: http://img529.imageshack.us/my.php?i...7162101nx5.jpg

This is with Mark instead of Kings, which I would have in a 5v5 setting (as well as Int.)

This doesn't even touch on the fact that it's significantly better for Steady Shot, which I used extensively in arenas last season.

Please stop spreading misinformation.

You do have 70 more int than me, but I think I'm going to go with CA over RWS.

I respec for arena every weekend. My build is:

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=VZEm0oyzhxstcuh0tM

Hawk Eye is important in lots of situations and I honestly can't imagine playing without it. Surefooted I only have for the +hit - I'd put another point in imp stings if I could afford it, and I'd consider putting the second point into Savage Stikes, since low hp casters will often try to close distance and a clutch crit raptor can take them out, or Efficiency, since even with 4/5 I will generally OOM before the end of a long fight.

Casual 3v3 - 5v5
I use. Scorpid pet + sting & trap mania.

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=VmZyV0oEzZchIMtoMuhz