75% of raid jewelry comes with at least 18 hit rating.

I thought this was a PvP discussion? Proper hunter PvP gear is very lacking in hit rating, which is why Surefooted is so huge. For most serious hunters, stacking anything other than resilience/stamina with gems is really not an option.

No, you are wrong. It is 5% to not miss specials on a level 70. However any rogue that raids will need somewhere between 7 and 8% to not miss specials on raid mobs. I believe that was what their discussion was concerning. Also blind requires more hit than regular specials to never miss in pvp.

3/3 Surefooted, the AP/Hit enchant from Cenarion Expedition and a S2 Decapitator are all the Hit Rating you'll ever need.

Their discussion was in the "Rogue PvP stats/standards and advice" thread, so didn't include any discussion regarding raid mobs. In that thread, they claim 7%.

Unless something strange happened in the transition between vanilla and BC, it's 5%.

Of course, I haven't tested this, so it's just an educated guess.

The only flaw with that is that the scope only gives *ranged* +hit rating, whereas the +hit gems help your melee hit rating as well, which allows for more reliable wingclips/raptor strikes/mongoose bite.

The scope used to give melee hit chance long time ago. But it was nerfed because it virtually became a rogue/warrior scope and it gave them a really powerful boost which was not "intended".

However I don't use any +hit gems or scope. I have full pvp/arena gear except for the 2h axe. When I get it next week i'll have 58 hit rating (18 from axe, 24 from kara ring, 16 from head enchant). With surefooted you don't need more than that.

With surefooted, yeah the 30 hit rating is almost never useful. But any spec without surefooted, the 30 hit rating is better then the 28 crit if you need it to cap out hit. Raptor strike is sorta important, but mongoose isn't all that important if it misses. Wingclip is really the only reason why one would miss the hit rating.

I'm not sure that I really consider hit rating to be as important for BM spec as for MM. Principally because when I play MM, my most crucial abilities are on longer cooldowns, and missing a Viper Sting(16s), Silencing Shot(20s), or Scatter Shot(30s) sucks.

On the other hand, for BM spec, your only interrupt is in the form of intimidation, which doesn't run off hunter hit anyways. So as BM spec, while missing occasionally may be annoying and a DPS hit, I don't see it as having the potentially fatal consequences that a miss can have for MM spec.

The shots which might be more crucial to miss as BM are Concussive shot and Viper Sting.

I still disagree about getting the 30 hit scope over the 28 crit scope even if you don't have surefooted. I think that in *most cases*, It's a waste of "stat slots". Just substitude a ring or something if you want +hit, and then you'll earn melee +hit as well for wingclips. It makes no sense to throw away 28 crit from the scope for 30 ranged hit when you can get better "swaps" in other item slots.

Admittedly, not everyone can get those better swaps, and the key is stat slots. You need to compare your overall stats with the +hit ring and 28 scope vs a crit ring and 30 hit scope (assuming that using the hit ring + 30 hit scope will bring you beyond hit cap).

You can upgrade a lvl 110 ring (Ring of Arathi Warlords for example) to a lvl 130 ring (the exalted Kara ring for example) with +hit on it (and thus get a better tradeoff between crit and hit, even for ranged only - treat the extra wingclip chance as a bonus), but you can't do the same with your scope slot, it will always be 28 crit vs 30 hit. I believe almost everyone are able to get the Kara rings by now, so it shouldn't be much of a problem.

Just a note snare resist can in other ways then just resisting the occasional hamstring. Not many people know this but it adds flat out to your ability to resist frostbolt. The way this works is if you resist the snare you resist the entire thing. 15% chance to fully resist a frostbolt actually could come in quite handy considering the amount of teams that have frost mages.