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Old 09/04/07, 10:53 AM   #1
Cronjob
Piston Honda
 
Orc Shaman
 
Twisting Nether
[Warlock] 5 v 5 Macro help

So I recently joined a pretty good 5 v 5 team1900-2000 which consists of DPS shammy, MS warrior, Priest, Pally, myself an Aff/SL warlock. My job primarily has been to CC and overall annoy the other teams healer but at the same time try to dot everything that moves. I loaded Perl X frames and set up a macro for a focus frame silence and focus frame fear. This allows me to hit one button to either silence or fear the healer or my focus frame without having to switch from my current target.

What macros or mods (if any) do you high end Warlocks use or suggest in 5 v 5. Moving up to this team I've noticed the game moves a lot faster than my previous team which was a 1750 team. My new team is very coordinated and I have to be on the ball so I'm looking for any tips you guys might have.

Gear wise I'm still lacking a few pieces but fully buffed I got about 15.6k health and 389 resillience.

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Old 09/05/07, 5:38 AM   #2
Fruit
Glass Joe
 
Gnome Warlock
 
Jubei'Thos
I'm just getting into the Gladiator mod myself, and I believe there is a function to cast a spell when the Gladiator target frames are left/right clicked. There seems to be quite a bit of potential for CoT and fear spam/cycling with this, particularly as you are the primary CC and harassment in your team.

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Old 09/05/07, 9:17 AM   #3
Cronjob
Piston Honda
 
Orc Shaman
 
Twisting Nether
Yeah gladiator is nice. The Perl X frames is nice because it creates a focus frame and I have it down towards the bottom center of my screen, I can see the debuff such as fear and the timer on it so I can time it better. All this while assisitng with dps on our main target. Then I can use my focus fear macro or focus silence macro.

I'm just wondering if folks use a cast sequence macro to cast dots or if they manually do that or any other useful tips they might have.

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Old 09/05/07, 10:09 AM   #4
drole
Piston Honda
 
Blood Elf Hunter
 
Twisting Nether (EU)
Originally Posted by Cronjob View Post
I'm just wondering if folks use a cast sequence macro to cast dots or if they manually do that or any other useful tips they might have.
Put them on manually, its not that hard. I use Classtimers to keep count of target and focus debuffs. Loads of other addons do that too though.

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Old 09/06/07, 1:55 PM   #5
Optimized
Von Kaiser
 
Gnome Warlock
 
Blackhand
Is there a mod that efficiently tracks diminishing returns? Ideally I would like it to track diminishing returns on fear and the polymorph of my mage teammate. Also, it would be great if it tracked how long a fear would last under "unbroken" duration (is it 12-5-2?) as well as how much longer until diminishing returns are renewed (is it 30 secs?).

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Old 09/06/07, 2:28 PM   #6
gnuoyiy
Von Kaiser
 
Dwarf Warrior
 
Blackrock
Go felguard spec...Armory Gnuoyiy and check out my 5v5...he should be felguard atm.

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Old 09/06/07, 2:38 PM   #7
gnuoyiy
Von Kaiser
 
Dwarf Warrior
 
Blackrock
To add, the mod my team uses is Proximo which frames the opposing enemies in boxes. I'm setup as main assist and my target becomes highlighted for both my shaman and warlock.

Pretty sure the only macro my lock uses is a set pet passive to follow and intercept X target and then back to aggressive.

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Old 09/06/07, 3:47 PM   #8
Nadagast
Piston Honda
 
Gnome Warlock
 
Mal'Ganis
Your spec is really bad for 5v5. You should go Felguard (either 9/41/11 or 6/44/11) or UA (and I wouldn't really recommend UA with your team setup...)

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Old 09/07/07, 10:06 AM   #9
Cronjob
Piston Honda
 
Orc Shaman
 
Twisting Nether
Originally Posted by Nadagast View Post
Your spec is really bad for 5v5. You should go Felguard (either 9/41/11 or 6/44/11) or UA (and I wouldn't really recommend UA with your team setup...)
You talking about my spec? I run a 24/37/0 for PVP, which means I dot everything that moves and drain tank assist on main target. The problem with FG spec is that I would lose my CC abilities since I need to run with my Felpup out. If we had another lock or a mage then I think FG would be a better build.


I loaded arena master which sounds like it does what proximo does.

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Old 09/07/07, 10:42 AM   #10
gnuoyiy
Von Kaiser
 
Dwarf Warrior
 
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The only control you lose switching to a felguard spec is the felhunter's silence. That spec is a tanking/outlast spec for 2s and 3s, but you have no burst at all and a bunch of sustained. Felguard spec comes with shadowburn and a pet that actually does a lot of DPS. Your team is not built around a tank warlock's spec as you are not an outlast .team, but SHOULD be a burst team. If you had an extra mage or lock, I'd actually consider your current spec to probably be better as it might become and outlast team then. I personally think that spec is silly if I ever see it in 5s. I could see it working with a hunter/you/war/priest/pal or mage instead of hunter, but not with your current offensive combo (shaman/warr is offensive).

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Old 09/07/07, 10:57 AM   #11
Optimized
Von Kaiser
 
Gnome Warlock
 
Blackhand
I would encourage comments about specs and pets to go to this thread
[Warlock] Seeking a bit of advice.
So we can keep this one to macros and add-ons specific to Warlocks.
One thing that I find helpful is a macro which automates the pregame buffing. I'm at work so don't have the exact macro but it goes something like
/cast sequence reset=100 fel armor, soulwell, felhunter, soul link, DI (Detect Invis, UB (Underwater breathing), DI, UB, DI, UB, DI, UB, DI, UB (5 sets of buffs which I use F1 F2 to target my team to make sure they get all of them) then shadowward
You can also add in spellstone and Voidwalker cast and sac. I found that my team would spend more than 30 secs developing a plan and the voidwalker sac didn't really do much. Also I found the spellstone better in lower brackets but don't have it part of my 5v5 macro.

Overall I would encourage you to make some macro that you can just mindlessly spam before a game to ensure you don't walk out of the gates without soul link on or without a healthstone because you were talking with your team about the last game. Make sure you use the ? icon so you know which is next in the series.

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Old 09/07/07, 5:35 PM   #12
Nadagast
Piston Honda
 
Gnome Warlock
 
Mal'Ganis
Originally Posted by Cronjob View Post
You talking about my spec? I run a 24/37/0 for PVP, which means I dot everything that moves and drain tank assist on main target. The problem with FG spec is that I would lose my CC abilities since I need to run with my Felpup out. If we had another lock or a mage then I think FG would be a better build.


I loaded arena master which sounds like it does what proximo does.
FG is great for 5s. The dps you get from the FG and dots really helps your damage (I'd bet that FG spec is better average dps than 24/37, and much better burst). Not to mention, you can use FG intercept as a sort of replacement for spell lock (or you can use it on Warriors, etc). Think of it as Deathcoil on a 30 second cooldown...

I have no doubt whatsoever that your team would do better if you were FG. (that includes getting Shadowburn and Bane) All you lose is FH spell lock which has real resist problems anyway. (And devour but this isn't such a huge deal for 5s)

If the other team has Pally/Priest healer, you can go for the Priest. He should be fairly easy to kill once their Pally's DS is down (or preferably gets MD'd). With the Shaman purging, WF totem, dots, FG, and a Sbolt/Sburn (or whatever you can get off) plus the Shamans burst you should have no trouble at all killing a Priest with Fear or Tongues on the Pally. If people on your team are dying quickly and you need your dps on one of their dps for control, then it will take longer to get a kill probably but you still have great sustained damage and good burst from the shaman.

Last edited by Nadagast : 09/07/07 at 5:45 PM.

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Old 09/08/07, 6:31 AM   #13
Kcolraw
Von Kaiser
 
Orc Warlock
 
Deathwing
sl/sl does fine in 5v5, i've played as 23/38 in a 2345 setup (with me instead of a mage) for the longest time (our team split earlier this season), had no problem keeping around 2200 ish... as for the "lack of burst", you just don't have any instant nukes... eh, i just spam incinerate if the main assist target already has a full row of dots on (and i have nothing better to do), this is the best spec for mana draining that includes soul link too, and the best spec to drag into "late game" with... we've won quite a few matches where it was just me vs 2~3 others left at the end

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Old 09/08/07, 6:38 AM   #14
drole
Piston Honda
 
Blood Elf Hunter
 
Twisting Nether (EU)
Originally Posted by Optimized View Post
Is there a mod that efficiently tracks diminishing returns? Ideally I would like it to track diminishing returns on fear and the polymorph of my mage teammate. Also, it would be great if it tracked how long a fear would last under "unbroken" duration (is it 12-5-2?) as well as how much longer until diminishing returns are renewed (is it 30 secs?).
Natur enemy castbar. it has to ton of other features as well though, but you can split the bars it creates so you more or less only see diminishing returns.

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