So, I'm getting close to hitting 70 and needless to say my gear is the next thing to grind up. This will be my first level 70 so my knowledge of gear for PvP is limited. I'm looking for tips on what the best way to start getting gear so I'm not a total gimp for long. I plan on competing in the arena at some point.


1. Is the Frozen Shadoweave set worth getting to start off? I have tailoring at silk level currently (~180). Are there any other craftable items I should look into getting?

2. I suppose I'll just start grinding honor in BGs and making sure to get in the respective BG per weekend. The order of gear will probably depend on what will upgrade me most and cost the least.

3. Are there are faction rep gear items that are worth getting for the time put in? Though I'd think grinding honor would be my first priority.

4. Are there any fairly easy quest rewards anyone can think of that are good/staple for PvP?

I'll be doing more research soon and probably post some more questions when I get a chance.

Any input is greatly appreciated!!

There are a lot of sources besides the honor grind, and as a warlock having resilience is probably more important than having damage (I'm not sure about this, but it's been the truth on my shadow priest).

Halaa is a great way to start getting some resilience on decent items with minimal time invested. It can be hard to hit it when there is PvP there, but if you just fly into Nagrand from Shatt and check the map and ask in General, you can generally check without wasting too much time.

Then there are Unyielding Bracers, Exorcist gear (helm and ring), multiple trinkets with resilience (KoT exalted, Heroic Underbog has 2 nice trinkets). Some of these are considerable time investments, and you may be better off going to battlegrounds.

Yea, I don't intend on keeping the frozen shadoweave around for long, I'm just thinking that I'd use it until I can replaced it with PvP gear. Right now I have random greens from quests. From what I hear getting 375 tailoring isn't quick and painless, but I think it's better than wearing what I have now for a long time.

lol, yes I expect to get one shotted from time to time until I get my better gear. I'm going to be joining some friends in the arena, but I'm not sure when I'll start fitting in.

Well unless you have several Shadowcloth tailor friends helping you craft your FSW set, you'd have your blue pvp gear LONG before you ever finished that tailoring grind. It's not something to just make and toss aside - it's a significant time investment to craft those, especially if you're still sitting at 180ish nearing level 70.

Also, excellent Friday reference in the sig.

If I wanted to gear a warlock from naked to PvP Gear assuming I could not get any raiding rewards I would follow these steps: (Not in any particular order both on steps and item order)

Pick up these two items (belt, legs) from Halaa.
Pick up these two items (head, ring) from the tokens in terrokar.
Spend a whole week grinding honor to get these: boots, wrists, neck, ring2, cape, Blue GM set -legs getting the helm last.

By this time you would also get a wand from running for tokens. By this time you also had played a week or two on an anything rated 5 man team and gotten an offhand.

I would have also gotten a 1h weapon and these two trinkets One Two.

At this point every piece of my gear would be PvP oriented. I would have socketed everything but the epics with 9 stamina gems, enchanted with stamina enchants. I would finish grinding honor for a belt and continued playing on a 5s team to replace the blue set and halaa pants along with the weapon and wand with merciless equalents.

You need 140k honor, which is 8 days in AV or 4 days if you only play on AV weekends (realtime). Buy both trinkets now. When the PTR comes out, if there isn't a new ring/necklace, buy those now. When 2.3 comes out, buy belt, cloak, boots, wrists. Get an alliance buddy to let you farm him for 60 Halaa tokens to get the belt/pants. And then level enchanting for the ring enchant.

Find a shadow priest to 2v2 with, get 600 points a week (should be easy with Warlock/SPriest) you should be able to get at least 3.5k points before 2.3 comes out. 3v3 or 5v5 might work too, but those are very resilience-dependent =(

My warlock is at 2500 points right now, he got all the honor grinded and is waiting for 2.3 to hit the PTR.

Season 3 is around the corner. As far as honor goes buy the 2min PvP trinket and a ring. Consider the Resil/Self-Heal trinket as well, the healing is hardly anything but the Resil is nice. Wouldn't hurt to buy the S2 Bracers either, season to season is not going to be a big upgrade there anyway. Save 75k points. Wait for S3 and buy at least two pieces of S1 armor and S3 Ring, Neck, Belt and Boots. It remains to be seen how expensive the S1 weapons will be on honor vendors but those wouldn't hurt if you can stand a little more honor grinding. I would not spend Honor on the blue armor set. It's absolute crap compared to what the S1 stuff will give you and unless you're a total freak tens of thousands of honor are a pretty significant investment and I wouldn't buy something I'd replace in two weeks.

I started in S2 (with about 2k arena pts gained from a ~2k rated 2s team with a Paladin partner, and mind you our rating only went down 50 with me having no experience and shit gear ;>) and I used FSW Robe and Shoulders until I got S2 replacements. With Sta gems they're not that bad. Battlecast pieces aren't bad but they don't have resilience which honestly is a bigger deal than Stamina is. I'm still using Unyielding Girdle with 2x+12 sta gems. The upside of these crafted items is that they don't take "weeks" to get.

For non-pvp-source items use Wowhead's advanced item search function. It's very simple and you'll sort out what you want very fast. There are some good starting point items out there and it's better to just search for them yourself than for us to list every single one.