Some of you may have already seen this, but Tyveris over at the Arena Junkies forum has compiled a list of the approximate gladiator rankings for all 3 brackets on all of the US battlegroups, and a few of the EU battlegroups as well.



Link to the new arena cutoff tool: Arena Junkies - Arena Title Calculator

For Stormstrike, at least, the 2v2 and 5v5 numbers are a little off. I have been using Fuzzykitty as a reference, because his 2 v 2 and 5 v 5 are among the lowest ranked teams I have found.

2v2: 149 - 29913 - 1032

5v5: 36 - 7278 - 1130

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Interesting information. I had no clue Ruin had the most teams, I would have thought Bloodlust would own that title (assuming the teams found are bottom of the barrel, or extremely close).

You can see everyone that got Gladiator for season one at The Armory. I checked my battlegroup's 2v2 and only 82 teams achieved Gladiator. According to this data, there will be over twice as many Gladiator's this season. Do you know if there was any data like this last season, and if so was it accurate? I wonder if they're going to filter out dead/inactive/ineligible teams when they do the calculations. Even though it would likely knock me out of a Gladiator title, I kind of hope they do because it seems like there is a ton of them.

Also, I see that 2 of them have a "NEED SOURCE" label, I'm guessing these teams are people intentionally plummeting to the bottom to see the max amount of teams. I seem to remember people saying you can pretty much find any level 70 with an armory parser if they are a) In a guild or b) on an arena team. Wouldn't that make it possible to parse the armory looking for the lowest team in each bracket of each battlegroup to get more accurate & updated results?

In the case of Shadowburn, at least for the 2v2 team, it would seem that the people on that team did in fact purposely plummet the rating to see the max amount. Some of the players on that team are on a 2311 5v5.

Purposely plummeting the ratings, sadly, is the only reliable method in which to know what the "bottom" is for a particular bracket. Although I have to say the real question is, whether all the inactive (no games played this entire season) or barely active teams (those with under 20 games played the entire season) will be counted towards the overall percentile. If those teams are not counted, it can prove pretty devastating to some people who think they're in the "safe" zone.

Blutdurst dwarves all! Glad to know my Gladiator title is safe. Last season Hall of Fame had 58 teams for 3on3, now it's more than a hundred! Will be interesting to see how the caps for weapons will affect this, a lot of people got into arena with S2 apparently.

Hmm. Can anyone recall how accurate similar predictions were last season, if there were any? Those numbers seem really, really high. I'm sure there's a lot of new teams since S1 but this many more?

These numbers would change quite a bit if you could knock off the teams in the first two pages with random alts "holding" the teams.

what do you mean? I thought it was just a flat .05% of ALL arena teams in the selected bracket

It's a 46% increase for Blutdurst 3on3 (58 to 107 gladiator teams) which sounds quite reasonable to me.

What about teams that hold top 20 spots with alts? Do they count in the rankings? What about inactive teams do they count? How do you go inactive?

I've not entirely sure how your extracting these numbers, so is there any chance someone could do a check of Misery, EU Battlegroup ? Thanks. Quite good numbers and gives a goal to head for

The Bloodlust 2v2 is very off the mark.

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UNF is my mates' team; they swandive on purpose.

I know for certain there are 7000 teams in EU Blackout 5v5 bracket, so top 35 should suffice. There might be more teams tho.

If you look though, the rank of the team you posted is 31424 and the rank of the team listed is 34121. Once you are dealing with low enough ratings the difference in ranking is so minimal that you already have good estimate.

Also, I end up editing that list once a day to include lower teams. Hopefully before I sleep tonight I should have a rank calculating utility that will be easier for you to link to and easier to use.

Hope you all enjoy.

This is off by a decent bit, currently the lowest team I know of is standing #8245, rating 1078.

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I'd be nice to see someone make some sort of armory crawler to come up with more accurate numbers for all brackets and battlegroups.

This is the worst ranked team I know in my BG:
EU
BG: Ruin
Rating: 917
Rank: 6722
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There is probably a few teams lower than this, but the difference in ranking between 917 and like 1100 is only ~100, so this should be accurate enough to get a gladiator cutoff of +/- 1 team.

By the way, say we KNOW that there is _exactly_ 10000 teams in one battlegroup 2v2, does this mean that _exactly_ the top 50 teams get gladiator, or will they "disqualify" teams that have 0 games played, only 1 player in it or have some other sign of inactivity?

From what I've seen they will count _all_ teams towards the 0.5% cutoff, but I haven't seen anyone stating that they are 100% sure, would be appreciated if someone could clarify it for me, once and for all.

Well, you have absolutly no facts to base that assumption on other than your own imagination. Blizzard is unfortunately rather reluctant to shed light on these things (or even supply us with the information where the cutoffs currently are, which they should be very capable of).

You could try doing what wowjutsu.com does and have a crawler search through every guild on the armory, and scan through guild members arena teams to find ones exceptionally low. This wont work in all cases, but it would be an additional method you could use to find the information your seeking.

Should be quite easy to figure it out by looking at stats from the previous season, and comparing the expected cutoffs with the hall of fame, right? (On that note, does anyone know of any stats similar to the ones in this thread but from the end of s1?)

Is blizzard ranking broken below(800?).

Perhaps I am doing this wrong, I allways select A player and and hover over their tooltip for 2v2 rank last week. But both Pallysmasher, The World of Warcraft Armory rating 799 and Shade The World of Warcraft Armory rating 523 give the same answer, 34121.
Now in practice i doubt that makes that much difference, if their were more then 50 teams rated 500-800 I would be very suprised. But it doesnt really matter if you use UNF or No will because both give the same incorrect answer.