Aye, combined with lower mana costs for exorcism this really gives paladins a nice edge against those damn dogs.

The bonus spell damage from +healing isn't something that's designed to turn healers into nukers though, but it definitely gives a few advantages for certain spells with high coefficients and low mana costs (judgement of righteousness and insect swarm spring to my mind). With JoR and holy shock a pally can potentially do 2k burst in a single global cooldown, assuming 500-600 spell damage. If you take the time to pre-emptively judge crusader, or run with a ret pally, that figure becomes even more dangerous. It's not something you want to spam every cooldown, but it will change the dynamics of play as healers suddenly become able to finish off low health targets in a pinch.

Insect swarm, for many resto druids, is something that they use against melee classes anyway for the miss %. Having it do an extra 300-400 damage every 12 seconds is nothing to sneeze at.

I'm not sure if there are shaman / priest equivalents, since I haven't played these classes in like two years, but I'm not looking forward to trying to burst down resto shamans while they slam me with 1k frost shocks.

If 'their' are 40 people AFK in the cave the first side to get an active tank and a healer will quickly kill the npcs and get a ton of honor. I see that you have 6585 lifetime honorable kills. I really do not think you understand what kind of an annoyance it has been to grind honor again and again and again and again. The novelty of playing PUG PvP via the solo queueing has worn of years ago.

I am typing this as I just noticed I got AFK'd out of AV 5 minutes ago - I have 107K lifetime honorable kills on my hunter, and my alt druid was rank 13 pre-BC. I have absolutely no desire to ever do pug BGs again, except perhaps on a lark to play with a new weapon. The BG honor grind is pretty much the worst element left in WoW, and I have absolutely no qualms about shadowmelding in Icewing Bunker throughout AV weekend to get my points and get out.

The content is beyond stale already and they require you to play the damn things way more than you would normally just want to play the same thing. AFK is the only thing that keeps me sane for more than 1 game at a time. Less honor is a fine price to pay for not playing the BG.

I'm quite partial to Snowfall Graveyard myself. Or another thing I like to do is AFK just south of the Dun'Modor (sp?) South Tower and ninja it back right near the end for kicks and giggles.

This is my favorite AFK spot. Even if horde see me they never bother to kill me, and it is always easy to take the tower back.

Your argument makes no sense at all. Who cares if you played 1 or 25 chars to rank 14. Fact is you have to farm honor now to get upgrades on your current gear. Your number of HK's does not give you the right to just afk because it bores you. I might aswell have 4 over geared friends run heroics for me while I just follow and shift loot once every 5 minutes.

...and if I could get 4 friends to do that in a Heroic, I would.

I spent 2.5 hrs wiping in Heroic Arcatraz last night for 3 badges (we couldn't kill that shadow dude), with people in T4 because our tank was undergeared and it's a crappy heroic (but someone wanted rep). Urgh!

I hate the afkers too, though I have done it occasionally myself. It's very frustrating when you do want to play.

If you think you can earn 75k honor in a single AV weekend though, you're crazy though. You never get the perfect run of games, or wins. If you do a full weekend - I mean give up a weekend of your life to bore yourself to death on a friday night, then 12hrs on a Sat and Sunday, maybe you could get over 30k, but not 75. And I don't know anyone (myself included) who could stand 2 x 12 hr days in AV.

Anyway, apologies for continuing the derail (!)

Eh, I had the end of September AV weekend off of work, my kid spent the weekend and grandma's (Unrelated to the fact that it was AV weekend), and my wife was out of town, and I knocked out just shy of 15k each day, so that's 60k. If I wasn't totally bored out of my mind and required some kind of intelligent human contact, I'm sure I could have probably managed another 15k spread over 4 days.

Where I come from, a 'weekend' is two days...

Taking Monday and Friday off work to do twice as much? *shudder*

I'm kinda impressed though. I managed about 25k on AV weekend two weeks ago and was pretty much ready to kill myself

Trust me, if you have a job, weekends are 2 days!

AV 'weekend' is 4 days, but I can't realistically use that time.

16hrs a day is clearly not fun/acceptable. That's the problem. AVing a reasonable amount (say 7 AVs / week) will not get you the honor you need before the season is over, pretty much. That's why the system is broken. The idea of bonus honor dailies helps this. But as has been much discussed, the amount of bonus is insignificant and so nothing, actually, is changed.