Spell hit and fear resist

Lodi · 12/18/07, 3:07 PM

What's the final verdict on spell hit chance in excess of 3% against players with "chance to resist fear increased by 15%" talents - that is, would an affliction warlock with 10% to hit from talent and 8% from gear reach a 99% success rate against a PVP priest?

Apply Aura: Mod Mechanic Resistance (5)
Value: 15

Or in other words, is the above mechanic countered by spell hit gear for binary spells like poly/silence/fear?

• Mex · 12/18/07, 11:30 PM

I'm fairly sure spellhit does counter talented resists.

Still, it's a huge investment for situational usefulness.

Prinsesa · 12/18/07, 11:42 PM

Still, it's a huge investment for situational usefulness.

I think it's a fair assumption that any Feral Druid is going to have Primal Tenacity, any Priest is going to have Unbreakable Will, any Holy Paladin is going to have Unyielding Faith, etc.

• Mex · 12/19/07, 12:45 AM

Yeah but you can't guarantee you'll be going up against those classes, so against druid / warrior, for instance, you'll be wearing 15% spell hit that's completely useless. I'm not sure how this translates into spell damage or stam/res but I imagine it would be a very significant amount.

Angeron · 12/19/07, 1:34 AM

Originally Posted by Mex

Yeah but you can't guarantee you'll be going up against those classes, so against druid / warrior, for instance, you'll be wearing 15% spell hit that's completely useless. I'm not sure how this translates into spell damage or stam/res but I imagine it would be a very significant amount.

Warriors have 15% fear/stun resist, second talent in arms, rogues can get 10% or 4/19%(normal/aoe). What are you giving up for that 15% spell hit?

Rumpeskum · 12/19/07, 4:26 AM

Does spell penetration affect these 10/15/x% chance to resist, or is this resist different from the resist you get from shadow resistance on gear? Or is +hit the only modifier that give a beneficial gain to hit with fear?

pheno · 12/19/07, 5:04 AM

Originally Posted by Rumpeskum

Does spell penetration affect these 10/15/x% chance to resist, or is this resist different from the resist you get from shadow resistance on gear? Or is +hit the only modifier that give a beneficial gain to hit with fear?

Spell penetration lowers the target's resistances simultaneously, it does not affect +resists in percentages.

dreadloc · 12/19/07, 7:04 AM

I didn't think this was the case, if so melee +hit should decrease stun resist talents. However it does not.

Rumpeskum · 12/19/07, 7:59 AM

Originally Posted by pheno

Spell penetration lowers the target's resistances simultaneously, it does not affect +resists in percentages.

So both spell penetration and +hit affects the chance of fear landing?

Originally Posted by dreadloc

I didn't think this was the case, if so melee +hit should decrease stun resist talents. However it does not.

You may have a point there. I haven't seen any evidence either way though.

Keline · 12/19/07, 8:07 AM

Do you really need evidence for that? Spell penetration reduces resists to zero, common sense should tell you that it won't affect %chances.

Rockstar · 12/19/07, 8:21 AM

It won't if spell penetration reduces the resist rate to zero, no.

I presume the question was along the lines of "How does spell penetration relate to spell hit rating in PvP?". There used to be a decent wowwiki article about the differences and mechanics of both so I'm going to point vaguely in that direction...

Seife · 12/19/07, 9:12 AM

Originally Posted by Angeron

Warriors have 15% fear/stun resist, second talent in arms, rogues can get 10% or 4/19%(normal/aoe). What are you giving up for that 15% spell hit?

Please check your facts before posting - especially if it concerns your class.

Source: World of Warcraft Europe -> Talents

pheno · 12/19/07, 9:49 AM

Originally Posted by Seife

Please check your facts before posting - especially if it concerns your class.

It would be rather funny, giving a (most of the time) fear-immune warrior a talent to resist fear mechanics, wouldn't it