Replica

Another biased nod for Ruin. Bleeding Hollow seems to have a lot of 'premades' running constantly during BG weekends with a usual 200 resilience requirement. Not so much for AV though, as our win % for Alliance is amazing when put in the context of this boycott business we hear so much about. Pugging often gets good results with fairly quick race games. Rarely do you get less than 300 bonus honor for 10-15 minutes work, which easily beats out what AB and WSG offer for longer games. Queue times are also good. Longest queue i've been in lately was a 14 minute AV queue. A one off. 4-6 mins for AV is the norm.

 

Raiddelay

From my experience transfering off Anub'arak, in the Whirlwind Battlegroup, don't ever go there, unless you want and easy 2000+ team. The Reckoning BG is actually really competitive from my experience on Horde, and Alliance have a 50% win percentage in BGs. Looking into that Battlegroup might not be a bad idea.

 

◊ Yes

Everyone come to Shattered Hand - Ruin. We have one of (the largest?) battlegroup in terms of teams, all battlegrounds go about 50-50 with only 5 minute queues on AV and instant WSGs etc. There's guilds to buy BT gems from, many guilds to run lower instances with. It's a day one server.

Arena queues are instant for 5s/3s and 5-8 minutes for 2s.

We have horde that sometimes like to raid major cities and descent world pvp.

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minorthreat

Stormstrike is just a miserable failure of a battlegroup. You have Mal'Ganis and BDF in there, but they don't make up for the fact that the rest of Stormstrike is made up of ghost towns (Dalvengyr, Ysondre) and release-day backwaters (Archimonde, Dalaran). I've been playing Horde side on Mannoroth and have found Ruin to be a much more enjoyable and balanced battlegroup.

 

• KinetiK

My own personal observations of Battlegroup 11 has the Horde winning 75% of pug EoTS, AB and WSG and Alliance winning about 75% of pug AVs. There seems to be a fair amount of retardedness on Alliance side with the most basic strategies for AB/WSG/EoTS being above the skill level of many/most players.

I suggest looking elsewhere than Vindication to be honest.

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xonk

recently transfered from BG6 to Rampage (BG?), I would not recommend it if you are looking for an easy honor grind.
Alliance lose AV 95% of the time with the most horrible score (0-600+). Overall AV is a waste of time.
There are some decent pug wins in EotS though, but nothing to compensate for the horrible experience AV is.

 

Kynes

Reviving this older thread in hopes of an update.

I took some time off from WoW about 6 months ago and just recently came back and rerolled warrior on Magtheridon. (I've been on Mag since launch). The Ruin Battlegroup has gone to absolute shit for alliance. Alliance lose every single WSG, Eye and AB. I mean not even close games. AV they are still motivated and win at about a 60% - 70% ratio. I just can't take grinding the marks from other BGs any longer and horde are winning enough in AV. Running into enough AV premades that I need a change. Any updated suggestions?

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• Maligne

That's incorrect.

What better cc is there for a druid than polymorph?

 

Krellian

Consider Sargeras in the Shadowburn BG. It is fairly balanced horde:ally, high pop./active PVP. WSG is bad times for pugs, AB is not great, AV is bad, EOTS is good, however there seem to be PVP groups running more often than not, so I'd say it does ok.

 

Kynes

Well obviously this is an exaggeration but the ratio is nowhere near competitive. Unless I get a premade going and have my queue times skyrocket, alliance loses at least 80% - 90% of the time in the non AV BGs.

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Mode

I would probably not suggest Nightfall for alliance. As Horde, here are my win percents in the BGs.

WSG: 75% (36-12)
AB: 67% (38-19)
AV: 57% (117-90)
EOTS: 64% (42-24)

The AV ratio has been drifting down over time. Most of those were solo queues or played with 1-2 friends at most.

The grass is not necessarily greener on the other side even if someone truthfully says it is. The two strongest predictors or BG success are how many healers your side has and how many geared people it has. If you're showing up in pve greens and blues, you're dragging your team down. There's nothing you can really do about that except accept your win/loss ratio is going to be worse because you're there.

 

Kynes

My gear is more than up to par for BGs purposes but I completely agree with your statement (I am full season 2, Brutal gloves, Vengeful pieces and all purple). Ruin alliance does not have healers and all of the games have extremely under geared players. I had an AB game over the weekend with 9 healing classes, 2 of them were spec'd for healing.

I've been queueing Eye, AB and AV as my routine. I'll take the eye or AB, check gear/healers and join the other queue if it looks bad. Most of the time the next game is just as bad and I'll take AV when it pops.

I'm not trying to turn this into a rant about my perspective, if other people have luck in this group, more power to you. I am looking for other options and any input is appreciated.

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djhbrd

As a player in Ruin since the launch of battlegroups, I can say I have never lost so many AVs than I have since crossrealms went live. If you even need to farm honor, Ruin Alliance has great luck in AV, not so much so in WSG/AB. EOTS tends to go 50-50 from what I've seen.

I obviously can't comment on the player base, but there's my two cents on BG wins.

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avinnik

As someone above said, do not go into the Whirlwind battlegroup. My hunter was on Darrowmere, and we only won AV (about 55% of the time). Others were absolutely horrible.

I transferred my hunter to Agamaggan, in the Shadowburn (BG9) group, and it's not what everyone hypes it up to be. We win about 40% of the time, and it also depends on the time of the day. Agamaggan is a bad server to go to as well, pretty much no premades whatsoever.

Hope that helps :P

 

ResiduaL

Well let's see.

I've transferred a lot and played on a ton of Ally side pvp servers, mostly Rampage though.

Cho'gall - Original server. Low pop on the Ally side but the Horde side has Death Wish and some decent arena players.
Cho'gall is also the original server of Ely, Celex and Emo.

Wildhammer - Only played here for about a month in March of 2008. Had trouble finding arena and bg premades but the ally pop was pretty large.

Stormreaver - Played here for about 3 months. There's some quality arena players on this side, most notably the spriest/rogue team of Milkofamnsia and Serration. I heard the ally side has depleted a bit.

Illidan (Current Server) - Horde outnumber the Ally but we actually have a fairly large amount of ally players. I don't really have trouble winning pug AV games but I will say that pug WSG, EOTS and AB are just terrible. It's easy enough to find a premade though.

Mal'ganis Ally side - I actually played here in S3 for a couple months and noticed the point selling was just horrible. Obviously things have changed this season but pretty much anyone from Rampage who wanted to gear up quicky would go to Mal'ganis and buy arena points and then xfer back.
I now have a horde char on Mal'ganis though.


I've also played on Azgalor, Onyxia and Akama.


Personally, I think that the Rampage battlegroup is still fairly competitive. I don't have a problem picking up honor gear and enjoy doing arena.
Well I'm certain that Tich probably has the most skilled arena players, I think Rampage is full of some quality players and is a worthwhile BG to play on.

 

Tyrn

Going to Echo staying away from Vindication if your Alliance. I play both horde and Alliance on this server and KinetiK hit it on the nail.

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xiaoxin21

Bloodlust is still a pretty good BG. The win ratio for alliance so far from games I am in is about

AV:60%
AB:75%
WSG:45%
EOTS:75%

On the other hand, Arena is way harder to get rating

 

solbergb

Earthen Ring/Vindication has a number of raiding guilds for the PVE content you were complaining about, as does likely any high population server. Pugs are still miserable, you will need to find and join a guild to get much raiding in.

Vindication Alliance wins in AV most of the time, suck in the other 3 battlegrounds a lot, but how much depends on time of day (morning and very late night PST is significantly better than "prime time" PST on the alternate BGS). Queue times are sub 1 minute most of the time on losing BGs, ~20m for AV. A lot of the prime time difficulty is a combination of newbies not knowing strategies and "honor farmers" whining about "just let them win" whenever a minor setback happens early. At other time periods, the odds that people basically know what to do and will actually try is better, and win rates rise to 35-40% from 1 in 4 or 1 in 5.

Can't speak to Vindication arena, as I suck at arena and only see the bad teams.

 

Ozzmar

Is there a site similar to warcraftrealms.com where one could view any kind of statistics regarding faction boss kills or world pvp? [I do realize how little there is to track.]

With no intent to derail this thread, I'm in the market for a good Horde pvp server to re-roll on, but short of finding servers with good population balance, I'm not sure where else to go to make sure I find a good server. Balanced battlegrouns are important, but I dig world pvp as well. Any ideas if there is a site that could help me find what I need to know?