[Hunter] The PvP Thread - Page 37

Dodo · 06/15/09, 2:29 AM

depends entirely on the bracket you want to focus on, but survival generally can work in all brackets. BM is good for 3s in certain teams (hunter/dk/paladin), but it basically sucks in 2s because everyone will just kill your pet and they will manage, believe me

Shrea · 06/25/09, 4:56 AM

Blizzard has been quielty buffing marks hunters for some time now. I've noticed it along with some of my hunter friends. What Ild like to know is:

1) Is MM a good spec for doing BG's just to raise my resliance?

My hunter just reached 80 and after obtaining Grand Marshal so long ago I hung her out to pasture to play my druid.Now Im getting back into PvP with her and it really exciting.

2) What would be a good pet to use as Marks in PvP?

I know the crab can root people. But I found feral charge to be quite useful. But Im not sure if there may be something better. My last question is where might I find some nice Marks PvP builds? I'm not really into arenas because I dont think they are a fair repersentation of skill. Also because with 200 resilance I'd get my face ripped off. So for the mean time, while I get more skilled on my hunter and higher resilance, Im going to be BGing it up

Thanks in advance,
Chris

diablos420 · 06/29/09, 1:16 AM

Originally Posted by Shrea

Blizzard has been quielty buffing marks hunters for some time now. I've noticed it along with some of my hunter friends. What Ild like to know is:

What would be a good pet to use as Marks in PvP?

I know the crab can root people. But I found feral charge to be quite useful. But Im not sure if there may be something better. My last question is where might I find some nice Marks PvP builds? I'm not really into arenas because I dont think they are a fair repersentation of skill. Also because with 200 resilance I'd get my face ripped off. So for the mean time, while I get more skilled on my hunter and higher resilance, Im going to be BGing it up

Thanks in advance,
Chris

As far as PvP Pets go I'd say that A crab, A ravager or a Gorilla with the changes to the Pet Racial being Pummel (an interupt) would be your best bet. A Crab Roots, a Ravager Stuns, and a Gorrilla interupts... Tenacity pets have a lot of survivability features built into theyr talent builds, but ravagers do a little better damage...

In my opinion if i were going to go Marks PVP my spec would probably be something like this
The World of Warcraft Armory
You get Lock and load, entrapment, and Scatter shot....
On a side note i think that you'd probably want to pick from Aimed Shot/Disengage/Raptor Strike/Chimera Shot Glyphs I honestly dont know which ones would be best but they all seem like pretty cream of the crop stuff to me.

Zerlu · 07/04/09, 6:23 PM

Originally Posted by diablos420

As far as PvP Pets go I'd say that A crab, A ravager or a Gorilla with the changes to the Pet Racial being Pummel (an interupt) would be your best bet. A Crab Roots, a Ravager Stuns, and a Gorrilla interupts... Tenacity pets have a lot of survivability features built into theyr talent builds, but ravagers do a little better damage...

In my opinion if i were going to go Marks PVP my spec would probably be something like this
The World of Warcraft Armory
You get Lock and load, entrapment, and Scatter shot....
On a side note i think that you'd probably want to pick from Aimed Shot/Disengage/Raptor Strike/Chimera Shot Glyphs I honestly dont know which ones would be best but they all seem like pretty cream of the crop stuff to me.

Aimed and disengage are pretty much must haves. Aimed lets you throw up more MS, and also hits hard enough to qualify as somewhat as a "nuke". Disengage glyph + Survival tactics gives you a 16s Disengage CD (I believe) which matches up much more favorably with Melee closing methods.

For BGs I also like to use a spider, the ranged peel helps in situations where things like WW and DS are prone to gibbing my pet.

Rohanin · 07/26/09, 3:14 PM

Hi there, I'm a lvl 78 BM hunter from Vashj server, I am starting to get interested in pvp such as battlegrounds and arenas. I'd like to make a survival build that would be flexible enough to play 3v3+ arena and some world pvp.
A friend of mine helped me make this build Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft (hope the link works...) but i'd rather go for other skills other than deflection and counter, I mean, Isn't sniper tranining more worth it?. I'd like some help with a pvp surv build or help me modify mine to a more long range one or something that makes more sense. I'm kind of new to the whole pvp experience so any constructive criticism is welcome. Thanks.

Edit: A miss spell.

Moodul · 07/29/09, 3:34 AM

Originally Posted by Rohanin

I'd like to make a survival build that would be flexible enough to play 3v3+ arena and some world pvp...
...but i'd rather go for other skills other than deflection and counter, I mean, Isn't sniper tranining more worth it?. I'd like some help with a pvp surv build or help me modify mine to a more long range one or something that makes more sense.

Personally I would use something more like Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft with three points left floating for you to tailor it a little to your own style.

I do not rate deflection/counter, as if you find yourself in melee range like that, your generally dead anyway thanks to the sheer number of abilities other classes now have to slow or stun us.

Also, I wouldn't put point's in sniper training, as they could be more useful elsewhere. You don't often have the luxury of being able to stand still long enough in Arena's to get the buff from sniper training. Although it could prove more useful in world pvp, especially if you have allies distracting the enemy.

nevermind · 07/29/09, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by Rohanin

Hi there, I'm a lvl 78 BM hunter from Vashj server, I am starting to get interested in pvp such as battlegrounds and arenas. I'd like to make a survival build that would be flexible enough to play 3v3+ arena and some world pvp.
A friend of mine helped me make this build Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft (hope the link works...) but i'd rather go for other skills other than deflection and counter, I mean, Isn't sniper tranining more worth it?. I'd like some help with a pvp surv build or help me modify mine to a more long range one or something that makes more sense. I'm kind of new to the whole pvp experience so any constructive criticism is welcome. Thanks.

Edit: A miss spell.

I played SV to 2400 in S5. Looking at BM for S7. But anywyay.

Deflection & Counter are useless. Useless vs all casters, DKs have a bunch of spells, rogues do it from behind, and warriors should be easy enough to kite already.

Try Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft . Not sure if it's similar to the one posted above, I can't view it right now.

If you're not hit capped take points out of sniper training.

Rohanin · 07/31/09, 4:11 PM

Yeah thanks for the advice. I have been starting to pvp lately... i got like 3/5 hateful pieces and i noticed once i enter close range i can't get out... like... paladins have like 30 stuns... rogues have 400 stuns (stunlock till i die XD) DK... i can kinda manage Warriors same... Locks rip me to threads with their DoT Shammies are so so. I have about 200 resi.. I have started to notice lately that Hunter is a support job in pvp, stand back and shoot (duh) XD but without a good team i am no one x.x; Is this normal? Thanks for the advice XD sorry for asking so many questions.

tarus · 08/04/09, 12:21 PM

I would recommend that you revise your post to be more specific and accurate. To say rogues have 400 stuns is an exaggeration that does little to help with the flow of conversation. If you were to ask when to trinket and when to use deterance or disengage when a rogue gets the opener on you then we could provide advice.

If you put to many question in a giant clump of text it will more then likely be ignored compared to short and direct questions.

Haggypants · 08/04/09, 2:33 PM

I've been pvping now seriously for about 2 monthes. i'm in 4 piece hatful with 1 deadly -legs- and a few deadly pieces from honor points. I know that spell pen around 70-100 is very beneficial as I have found but my question is what about ArP? I havent toyed with it yet but it has been on my mind for some time, and I was wondering if it effected resiliance or not? Meaning would it be able to lower a fellow players resiliance and if not would it have any value for a hunter in a pvp setting?

Harmonix · 08/04/09, 4:53 PM

MM Build

The World of Warcraft Armory

This is my build right now. I have been going back and forth with the 3 points in Lock and Load and placing them into Surefooted, but I can't decide what I like best yet. I'm also rolling with a crab as of late; I utilize the snare very well. I want to get opinions on it, and why I should change it.

I've only recently started to pvp and I can't seem to get a hold of 2v2. What class pairs up well with MM hunters, or should I respec into another tree? Or are hunters meant more for a 3v3 or 5v5 bracket. I do pretty well in BGs, staying alive and keeping healers alive, bu that hasn't worked out for me in 2v2s.

I don't have problems with DK's at all, but rogues and pallys tear me up. If anyone with PvP and especially arena experience has some advice, I would greatly appreciate it.

jurgen · 08/05/09, 11:23 AM

Hunters don't do well in 2s at all, but if you're hell bent on playing 2s, you need to go surv and you need to find a druid or shaman.

Hunters do much better in 3s and 5s, where the comps you can run are wide open

Beushdag · 08/06/09, 4:00 PM

Originally Posted by jurgen

Hunters don't do well in 2s at all, but if you're hell bent on playing 2s, you need to go surv and you need to find a druid or shaman.

Hunters do much better in 3s and 5s, where the comps you can run are wide open

Ive encountered some very very mean 2's of a hunter and a resto druid. I havent done arena since pre WOTLK but i assume that the combination is still viable. So if you really want to 2v2 I'd try grabbing a druid preferrably resto and someone who is good at evasive playing.

Fios · 08/10/09, 3:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Grumhul

Since right now most people tend to think that every hunter is a BM, and they also check for buffs to make sure. Spirit bond and Kindred spirits are what they are searching for, so you can get a step forward if you like BM a lot and spec 43/21/7 (up to 2 points in longevity, readiness in MM and Survival Instincts on SV) and surprise people that don't expect a big red kitty coming up.

You lose Kindred Spirits and Spirit Bond, but the surprise factor worths every penny.

After patch, the fuss will be on MM in my opinion due to its high burst and silence capabilities. Especially coupled with Readiness it can help a lot in a 3v3 or 5v5 situation. Double Silence and Scatter is taking a healer out of the game, especially on those crucial burst seconds.

Grumhul,

After reading about your post I wanted to know if you would be so kind as to post a link to your BM adapted spec of 43/21/7 in the forum. I am going to adjust my current BM spec and wanted a comparative view of another alternative. While my PvPing is limited, I do occasionally BG and even seek retribution while in the Basin with 51/15/5. My desire is to maintain Beast Mastery as I enjoy the confusion that my Spirit Beast causes.

In addition if ANY other Hunters who would also like to post a link to their favorite BM it would be appreciated.

Valagrin · 09/04/09, 5:52 AM

My hunter is gonna hit 80 tonight and i am going to to use him him as my PVP/Arena guy. I was trying to decide what pet to use when i noticed birds of prey have a disarm ability. Does this make them a viable pet, if not what pet should i be looking for? I'm starting off with a MM build but will prob try survival at some point.

Vala/Hoarus