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Old 01/11/08, 3:15 AM   #1
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Von Kaiser
 
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Finding arena teams.

Hi All,

Used to be a regular around here back in season 1 days.

I took a break from wow during season 2 and basically have come back for season 3 and find that most of the people i used to arena with back in the day have new set teams or dont play anymore.

So i guess this is just a general post regarding the best avenues people use to find arena teams? I must say im not keen on the idea of running around IF /yell spamming or the like, and i personally dont like /w everyone who looks like they take arena seriously as i remember how much that used to annoy me in s1.

Basically i play on alliance blackrock, gnome warlock.
12.9k odd unbuffed hp, 457 resil, and got the gladiator title in s1 for 2v2. (also got invited to the 2v2 tournament at the start of s2, if anyone remembers that).

I have to admit I am a bit rusty and no at the same level of micro management i used to be at, but I am also just happy to find a 3v3 and 5v5 team which simply takes arena a bit more seriously then the casual joe.


so if anyone on alliance BR is after a lock, just PM me ingame or here i gues


Also to the forum admin, sorry if this type of post isn't allowed here. feel free to remove it if thats the case.


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Old 01/11/08, 5:15 AM   #2
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As you can see by my post in the Rogue thread I have a similar dilemma. I'm uber-PvP geared, half-decent, talk on vent, read about PvP all the time... but have an unreliable team and am considering moving server, at least with my main. I'm pretty sure this type of post *isn't* allowed here though...

I've started an alt on a prospective future server and probably will spam /2 and /w people to try to find folks. There's no other options, really, I can think of. Maybe EJ should have a Benefactor's Recruitment area - could be very very useful?

The other thing to do is post on some possible target realms' (or your own if you think talent is available) realm forums. Depending how active you are, you may get some interest. My realm forum is a horrible cliquey in-jokey name-calling mess, but it COULD still be useful I imagine. Also, the general WoW PvP forum-- you never know (!)

Finding a solid reliable arena team you get on with / speak on vent / are willing to practise is a huge problem IMO. Once you exhaust the choices on your server (i.e. the people you've known for the past 2-3 years) I don't see many easy further ways to go that aren't somewhat pot luck.

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Old 01/11/08, 8:41 AM   #3
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Things I'd suggest are:

1) If there's an IRC for your battlegroup/server, get on there and get to know people. It's like the real world, connections help. Even if those people directly aren't looking for someone, their friends may be, and your name may get brought up. Don't be annoying though, I (and probably everyone else) can't stand people that ask for arena teams 10 times a day.

2) Don't have extremely high standards, chances are if a team is picking up new players that they haven't played together for long and haven't solidified their group. If you see even a few people on the team that play well and take pvp seriously, stick around. They'll probably get fed up with the people holding you back even if they are their friends and look for replacements.

3) If you have a good 2v2 partner, play that as much as you can so people can see that you don't suck. That way when you ask to join a team you have at least some credibility.

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Old 01/11/08, 9:51 AM   #4
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I'll be succint: There's a huge difference between "LF 3v3 team" and "LF2M 3v3 team".

Think about the type of team you'd like to play then take some initiative seeking out those players. If you have the team, the strategy, and spots to fill - you're the one holding the cards. It also impresses people as generally speaking gear isn't that rare anymore, but knowing a bit about the strategy a particular team plays is.

You could also start with a 2s and then build to a 3s from there. You could pick up a Rogue or Druid and do quite well in 2s, then once you're comfortable with that partner you can advertise that your "1900 2s wants an <x> for 3s".

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Old 01/11/08, 12:15 PM   #5
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Wise words Maynard, but sucks for classes that struggle in the 2v2 bracket.

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Old 01/11/08, 5:34 PM   #6
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Sucks if there are no good Druids on your server though!

I just lost a good one to a Warrior. Warrior/Druid is so strong it's hard to hold a good Druid offered a spot with a Warrior (even though we got from 1500-1700 in our first two weeks and were still climbing- oh and HE died first everytime, not sure how a Warrior will help him there :P /frustrated).

But yeah, it's the moving server part I'm worried about - I know 'everyone' on my server and would have no contacts if I moved.

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Old 01/11/08, 6:55 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by Maynard View Post
I'll be succint: There's a huge difference between "LF 3v3 team" and "LF2M 3v3 team".

Think about the type of team you'd like to play then take some initiative seeking out those players. If you have the team, the strategy, and spots to fill - you're the one holding the cards. It also impresses people as generally speaking gear isn't that rare anymore, but knowing a bit about the strategy a particular team plays is.

You could also start with a 2s and then build to a 3s from there. You could pick up a Rogue or Druid and do quite well in 2s, then once you're comfortable with that partner you can advertise that your "1900 2s wants an <x> for 3s".
to the OP, we could possibly start something up. like what Maynard said, your experience could prove valuable.
while on the topic, what could be a possibly comfortable setup with a disc priest and your warlock in a 5s team?

ps: Maynard. Xobile here. i didnt know you rerolled druid lol

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Old 01/11/08, 7:28 PM   #8
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Originally Posted by Tiiki View Post
Sucks if there are no good Druids on your server though!

I just lost a good one to a Warrior. Warrior/Druid is so strong it's hard to hold a good Druid offered a spot with a Warrior (even though we got from 1500-1700 in our first two weeks and were still climbing- oh and HE died first everytime, not sure how a Warrior will help him there :P /frustrated).

But yeah, it's the moving server part I'm worried about - I know 'everyone' on my server and would have no contacts if I moved.
If he is dieing first every time then there may have been something wrong with the approach you guys were taking. Despite popular belief, Druids cannot escape 5 people, while CCing 10, and healing 20. If he jumped ship to play with a Warrior, then him dieing first every match may have had something to do with it. When playing 2's I regularly call my teammates in for support when I'm getting focus fired, and while Druids have some great escape tools, a good Rogue or Warrior can keep him pinned down with just a small amount of help from their own teammate (and sometimes without any help at all). Basically that means my warrior or rogue (yes, I play with both on my team) has to intercept/hamstring/disarm, or Blind/Stunlock/snare to give me some breathing room. If your Druid is dieing first every single match, it might have been helpful for you to look into methods for avoiding that because it may have kept him on your team. Druid/Anything is very technical, and it takes time to figure out how to work together.

I do not intend this to be a flame or personal attack, it is just that I find people's expectations of Druids to be out of line with reality.

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Old 01/11/08, 10:04 PM   #9
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Yeah i think your right Maynard, the best approach is probably to start off with 1-2 people, build a bit of a rep and then work from there to make a solid 5s team.

only problem is i 2v2 with my old 2v2 partner from season1, however mage/lock isn't as strong as it used to be. I also muck around with his shaman (lock/shaman) which is hardly a strong combo either :p

he has 3s and 5s teams already i think, so its hard to work from there.

possible could take his mage and grab a healer, i.e. priest or druid and make a 3s team... although i dont know how good that combo does these days.



ill try get in contact with you ingame insi9nia. I was in elementium for a period of time too, might be able to drag a few of the others out and make a 5s team possibly :P


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Old 01/11/08, 10:05 PM   #10
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ArenaJunkies recruitment forums.

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Old 01/11/08, 11:41 PM   #11
Tiiki
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Well, if we're playing mirror, and their druid is going cat/sprint, bear, intercept to my Druid across the map, then travel in a few GCDs away from me, whilst my Druid is just dying, then yes: it is him that needs to improve his approach a little.

He also refused to use vent so I had to coordinate with quick /party chats (!!!). I was happy to peel for him when I could. But roguery requires a lot of stay-on-target-tunnelvision and without him calling for a peel it's pretty tough.

He wasn't a terrible Druid, but he definitely needed to improve his kiting. I actively told him I want him to kite more and heal less and if I died first a few times that would be better :P

So please don't tell me to "L2P"

I'm sure our approach wasn't perfect - we only played two weeks, and of course needed more practise. I don't deny that. Despite all this, we were raising our rating every session we played, too.

I'm frankly staggered you're calling me out on this!

Anyway... made 1860 today in my 5v5 -- easily top on our provincial little server I think

EDIT: I'll check out ArenaJunkies, thanks.

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Old 01/12/08, 12:21 AM   #12
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I don't think Kaber was calling you out, he was just making a general observation. I must admit it was the first thing that came to my mind too. I wouldn't take too much offense from it :P

Finding teams is quite hard, but really I think not relying too much on first impressions needs to be stressed. People who can play their class perfectly will already have teams. Look for things such as determination, willingness to learn and adapt, and most of all look for someone that you can get along with, and enjoy playing with, cause ultimately that's the entire point.

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Old 01/12/08, 11:20 PM   #13
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I have not done this myself, but i know that a friend of mine have gotten a couple of decent arena mates this way:

Duelling outside your capital city! The duelling itself is not what gets the partners, but it does a good job singling out the ones you actually want to play with. Talking to them afterwards is what gives the results. Making a couple of ingame friends along the way doesn't hurt either :P

If you are any serious about your PvP you need to get your own game handled anyway so unless you are seriously lacking honor-gear i don't see how you could spend your time better anyway.

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Old 01/14/08, 4:56 AM   #14
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I definitely agree that duelling is a hugely underrated activity. I think it's very very useful.

However, though I did LOADS at 60, in TBC the number of people outside Org is VASTLY reduced so it's a lot harder to get practise in, especially amongst equal geared peers.

It would be awesome if Blizz added some duelling space inside Shattrath, or similar. Maybe in WOTLK this will work better? The problem is that everyone arrives in Shatt via the sky, so there's no common duelling thoroughfare...

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