Well after this first week of Arena S5 I have to say that 15/0/56 worked best for me in 2n2 together with a holypaladin, I played frost a bit but it didn't work as well as Unholy. I haven't tried blood yet and i don't think i will it's just not that attractive. I'm currently #1 in my realmpool with 1928 rating in 2n2, the problem i noticed is the ability of my ghoul to survive against teams in highrating, they just kill him instant. I hope this will change with the new patch.

Er wow, props to you. I found that when I was fighting DK/healer the DK couldn't do enough damage to worry me before his partner was dead. Those were honestly some of the easier fights. Thats as a shaman/rogue team, anyway.

Any tactics against Retri Palas 1on1 ? Iam unholy (my char) and got about seven times owned by a 77 retripala and just won one time, because he had no LoH and i got lucky with ghoul after death...

Any suggestions or just op? Would frost specc be more viable? (played it till 74 but then wanted to try out unholy, didnt came across a retri pala with that specc)

You cannot expect PvP to balanced/fair/whatever while you have < level 80 spells/talents/gear. Level some more and then come back.

In 3s im running with another DK and a Ret Paladin. Rather than use the blood strike glyph we use the rune tap glyph to heal the whole group. We find up to 10k of group healing every 30 seconds can really help for surviving the burst thats so prevalant at the moment.

Due to wielding the hunter polearm Black Ice, and wearing a few rogue accesories like +ap cloak etc (just drop luck and noone else needing the items in question), I've actually ended up with like 700 strength. Fallen Crusader is still better than any conventional weapon enchants at that strength level but not as good as it could be, so I started testing the others a bit more.

I've had very good results with Cinderglacier as 20/51 Frost. It's not uncommon at all for both Killing Machine and Cinderglacier to be up when I go for a burst, in which case I'll Deathchill the second Frost Strike. I don't know if it won games because honestly two 5k frost strikes isn't that much more survivable than two 6k frost strikes, but it's certainly...satisfying.

There is something to be said for the Max Spike approach, especially after patch and with more resilience. Important bonuses for this approach would be the 4 Piece gladiator one: (15 runic power over 5sec after snared), and 2 piece PvE: (5% obliterate Crit). Glyph Frost Strike, Blood Strike, Obliterate, sit in Blood presence, use Cinderglacier and jack-hammer people every GCD until they drop over from sheer damage output. This is best paired with a Holy Paladin for the Stun / throughput, and an occasional judge-shock assist for the kill.

At which armor value would frost presence do give more damage bonus with bladed armor 5/5 then blood presence?

Elementary napkin math with the ratio of Armor -> AP conversion and the AP coefficients of various spells indicates that such an armor value is unobtainable and will likely remain that way.

Yeah I can't imagine the armor level you would need for an extra 60/80% bonus (post patch) to bladed armor to exceed 15% extra damage. Even if it did the talent would most certainly be nerfed.

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned that a glyphed AMS is autowin vs mages and warlocks. You are immune to all their cc and since you will be stuck on them, their only option is instant casts, which will be doing 75% less damage (or none at all if you spec Magic Suppression). If I'm at 0 RP, I'll even skip CoI in favor of Icy touch to get enough RP right away. It's not like they can get away from you. Even with the glyph nerf, I'm sure I'll still be running it.

oh and Eej... I'm noticing a trend with Hunters rolling DK's.