Originally Posted by Juice
I speced toughness on the PTR and got a whopping 1300 extra health. Wank.
For 5 points, I don't see it being worth the investment.
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I'm not so sure actually. At a first glance 140 stamina seems weak, but the directly competing talents is the crit talents, so it's 28 stam per talent vs 46 crit rating per talent. Which one of those is best is not obvious, and it's probably very setup dependant. Playing with rogues and warlocks you will likely want the extra healing power of the crit, but if you're playing something like hunter/dk/shaman where you are likely to be focused a lot and have little support, you might want the extra stamina. In fact, in setups where you are likely to keep earth shield on yourself most of the time, you could skip improved water shield and get both.
It kind of related to gearing as well. With weak classes such as rogues and warlocks, you probably want to go for a caster shield, spellpower enchants, and maybe even spellpower or intellect gems. On the other hand, if you are likely to get attacked, you would typically go for the "warrior" shield and gem for maximum resilience/stamina.