Shadowed

One of my new projects requires diminishing return data, while I already have a fairly comprehensive database it's hard for me to specifically test what spells are in what category without guesstimating or asking other players who know for sure. I'm pretty confident that the database below is not missing anything or has a spell listed incorrectly, but if you see something missing/listed incorrectly it would be a big help for making sure I have the most accurate diminishing return data possible for the mod.


Hibernate, Scatter Shot, Charge, Mind Control, Banish and Cyclone share diminishing returns with themselves.

Taunt: Taunt (Warrior), Taunt (Pet), Mocking Blow, Growl (Druid), Dark Command, Hand of Reckoning, Righteous Defense, Distracting Shot, Challenging Shout, Challenging Roar, Death Grip, Challenging Howl, Angered Earth

Disorients: Dragon's Breath, Hungering Cold, Sap, Gouge, Hex, Shackle, Polymorph, Freezing Trap, Freezing Arrow, Wyvern Sting, Repentance

Silences: Nether Shock, Garrote, Arcane Torrent, Silence (Priest), Silencing Shot, Improved Kick, Spell Lock, Improved Counterspell, Shield of the Templar, Strangulate, Gag Order (Warrior talent)

Disarms: Snatch, dismantle, Disarm, Chimera Shot - Scorpid, Psychic Horror (Disarm effect)

Fears: Blind, Fear (Warlock), Seduction (Pet), Howl of Terror, Psychic Scream, Scare Beast, Turn Evil, Intimidating Shout

Controlled stuns: Intercept (Felguard), Ravage, Sonic Blast, Concussion Blow, Shockwave, Hammer of Justice, Bash, Intimidation, Maim, Kidney Shot, War Stomp, Intercept (Warrior), Deep Freeze, Shadowfury, Holy Wrath, Inferno Effect (Doomguard summon), Demon Charge, Gnaw

Random stuns: Impact, Improved Fire Nova Totem, Stoneclaw Stun, Seal of Justice, Revenge Stun

Controlled roots: Freeze (Water Elemental), Pin (Crab), Frost Nova, Entangling Roots, Earthgrab (Storm, Earth and Fire)

Random roots: Improved Hamstring, Frostbite, Shattered Barrier
Horror: Death Coil, Psychic Horror
Opener stun: Cheap Shot, Pounce

 

• Adoriele

Not a huge issue, but Starfire Stun doesn't exist anymore.

 

JamaFinn

I don't think Growl (Pet) counts as a taunt, due to it only increasing threat by a static value but having no actual taunt effect.

You're probably looking at
Taunt (Pet) - Wowhead

 

Shadowed

Oops forgot to remove it when I removed Mace Stun, thanks.

Yea you're right, I fixed that thanks!

 

Aamoo

I wonder whether meta gems applies to the diminishing returns category, eg. [Impassive Skyflare Diamond] does it lower the duration on blind to 9 seconds?

Personally i don't believe it does, but there's meta gems to reduce every kind of cc, so i figured blind would be categorized with one of them.

 

dnmorton

Hunter survival talent entrapment seems to be missing.

 

Soul

I don't know if anyone's tested this extensively, but Fiery Payback has a random disarm component.

Does Banish share DR with anything?

 

Chirality

As does the mage talent Shattered Barrier. I'm fairly certain that either these two effects are not on the same DR as other controlled roots, though. Well, I should say "very certain" that Shattered Barrier doesn't share DR, but Entrapment might.

I wonder if Entrapment and Shattered Barrier share DR with each other, or if they're independent?

 

Lileith

Shattered Barrier nova share a DR with Frostbite since 3.1 (or a bit earlier I'm not sure).

 

• Juice

Does the Elemental Shaman talented Earth Bind Totem root share a DR with the other items in the "Controlled Roots" category?

 

Shayo

Banish does not suffer from DR.

 

Shadowed

I added Shattered Barrier to the random roots category. Since Entrapment is now 100% chance it probably goes under the controlled roots category but that is just me guessing.

You know I'm not really sure. It is 100% chance at 3/3 so I would be inclined to say that it shares DR with controlled roots, I doubt Blizzard would change the DR category based on talent points spent, not even sure if they could as it likely is all the same root spell.

 

Moof

Nether Shock from the nether ray is an interrupt and not a silence I believe. Also the Snatch ability is from Birds of Prey.

And do Impact and Imp Fire Nova totem count as random stuns even though they aren't really random proc'd?

 

Mericet

Unless they changed it since I was playing my warlock in TBC, you can successfully banish a tree form druid, and it does diminish (otherwise with good timing you could chain banish him, though he'll likely shift out). Not exactly the most useful knowledge, especially since you didn't really encounter many trees back then in pvp, but it was always fun to land it on someone when you could, if just for the shock value.

 

Chirality

Testing it right now: Mind Control does not DR Psychic Scream.

I'll try to see if Mind Control DRs with Wyvern/Sleep/etc.

Edit: Mind Control doesn't seem to go on Diminishing Returns after Freezing Arror or Wyvern, either.

 

Liar

My Resto Druid arena partner said it shares DR with fear. This is just second hand info though, so a confirmation would be nice.

Unexpected TankPoints error Clearly someone doesn't understand how EH works. That, or upgrading from T8 to T9 is optional in beating Arthas. Clearly.

 

Druïd

As far as I know, Kidney Shot does not share a diminishing return with any other stun currently. Though I recall reading something about plans of changing that in a future patch. I thought they are planning on having Kidney Shot share a DR with every other stun and instead making Cheap Shot not share a DR with any other stun.

 

aureon

Kidney shares DR with HoJ and Deep Freeze, among others on the list.

 

Jax883

I believe it does.

Maybe I just played against a bunch of moron trees, but I don't remember them being able to shift out of banish.

 

Robi

Banish and Fear don't share DR. That's why Banish was changed to 6sec duration in PvP. You can't shift out of banish (but you can avoid it by shifting out of tree before the banish lands of course).

 

Ja7us

I.e. all controlled stuns except for Charge, Cheap Shot and Maim.

 

Shadowed

Updated the original post again with everything I have and can't think of anything missing at this point, thanks for peoples help with getting the most accurate DR database possible.

I'm guessing that Entrapment diminishes with itself and not with other random roots?

 

zoneslash

To my memory Entrapment shares DR with Frostbite and Shattered Barrier, but i must say i'm not sure about hamstring - by that i presume its the RNG procc from talent or glyph..

i might just go and test it tho to be sure ^^

 

Jeffy

What about crafted/profession items like netherweave nets, grenades that stun/slow, net-o-matic?

 

cordelliia

Along with this list of DR, is there a good resource for looking up the PvP durations of these effects? Blizz's tooltips only ever list the PvE durations.

Also: Wowwiki lists as of 2.3, that blind is on the same DR as cyclone. That doesn't seem to be the case anymore is it?