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Updated for 4.0.6, but new guide will appear here going forward:
http://elitistjerks.com/f73/t110353-...dated_4_0_6_a/
[top]IntroductionThis is a compendium of information on raiding as a Balance Druid. It contains everything a beginner needs to achieve basic competence at raid DPS, as well more detailed discussion for people more interested in understanding the theory or more advanced play. The article is supplemented by the attached spreadsheet. Anyone posting on the thread should have a good familiarity with the current state of Moonkin theory, either from this guide or from anywhere else. At the very least, do not ask questions that are directly answered in the guide; they will be infracted. It's good to be familiar with things that have been discussed on the thread as well, we start new thread each patch so they don't get too long. In particular, know what's been discussed on the last few pages before posting. In addition, I often post any Druid research/theorycraft work I do on this blog and Twitter feed: http://elitistjerks.com/blogs/hamlet/ Hamlet (HamletEJ) on Twitter And I upload videos of myself playing various boss encounters here: YouTube - Arawethion's Channel [top]Talents, Glyphs, and Race[top]The SpecAny PvE Balance spec will include the following talents: Nature's Grace, Starlight Wrath, Nature's Majesty, Genesis, Balance of Power, Euphoria, Moonkin Form, Shooting Stars, Force of Nature, Sunfire, Earth and Moon, Lunar Shower, Starfall, Natural Shapeshifter, Heart of the Wild, Master Shapeshifter. That leaves 10 points, 6 of which must be in the Balance tree (2 in tier 4 or below), mostly up to you. Options for these talents: 1) Mana. The talent giving the most mana per point is Dreamstate. However, this requires that you Innervate yourself. If you have severe mana issues (possible in pre-raid gear or if you're AoEing heavily), you'll want to pick up Dreamstate. If your mana problems aren't so bad that you need to Innervate yourself, then Furor is the best option, followed by Moonglow. Just to reiterate, do not drop Euphoria. 2) Other utility. These are up to you, based on the encounters you're doing. Typhoon (knockback), Solar Beam (silence), and Fungal Growth (snare) can have uses at some encounters. Gale Winds is a necessity anytime you're AoEing. 3) Filler. If you don't need any of the above. Owlkin Frenzy is some DPS contribution depending on encounter. Perseverance is also a fine raid talent, especially when learning Heroics and more dangerous encounters. Blessing of the Grove is generally a very weak talent, but can add a little DPS in a Sunfire spam style (see more on this below). So, much more than in past expansions, you have many more "optional" points where you have to use your judgment to decide what best fits the encounter you're doing. There's no generally best choice for these--I might add in some model specs later after seeing all of the encounters. [top]Mathematical Details of Talents
One miscellaneous point of mechanics that people should understand: DoT's read their spellpower and haste values, and any %damage buffs, at the moment they are cast. These do not update while the DoT is ticking. Crit chance and target debuffs, however, do update dynamically. [top]Glyphs[top]Prime GlyphsThe best two are is [Glyph of Insect Swarm] and [Glyph of Moonfire]. The third can vary based on the situation:
[top]Major Glyphs[Glyph of Starfall] is a solid DPS increase. [Glyph of Rebirth] is also highly recommended in any raid situation--being able to Rebirth people safely is very valuable to your raid (especially with the new system of limited Rebirths). The others are all situational: [Glyph of Thorns] is useful anytime Thorns is good (see below). [Glyph of Focus] gives a little bit of DPS anytime you don't need the extra range on Starfall. Sometimes the reduced range can also help you control your Starfall targets. [Glyph of Innervate] is handy filler anytime you don't need either of the above two (and if you're not already using Dreamstate). [Item not found!] is useful at any encounter where you have to interrupt spells (despite the tooltip, the Glyph extends the lockout effect, not the silence aura). [top]Minor GlyphsNone of these add any DPS, so it's entirely up to personal taste. [Glyph of Typhoon] is the only one that affects combat mechanics, but it's situation-dependent. [Glyph of Unburdened Rebirth] can prevent you from being embarrassed with no reagents, and saves an inventory slot to boot. [Glyph of Dash] can occasionally be handy. [Item not found!] can save a little bit of mana if you ever have to rebuff people during a fight, but MotW is very cheap now. [top]RaceHorde: Troll is best for DPS, since it gives Berserking and Beast Slaying. Tauren gives no DPS benefit. Alliance: Worgen is best for DPS, since it gives 1% crit (Darkflight is also a nice perk). Night Elf gives no DPS benefit. [top]Gear[top]StatsIn roughly descending order of importance. Intellect: Intellect provides 1 spellpower and 0.00154% to crit per point. With Mark of the Wild, Heart of the Wild, and Astral Leather Specialization, it provides 1.169 spellpower and 0.0018% crit (555 points per 1% crit, a bit under 1/3 of a crit rating). Similarly, with these talents, one point of Intellect increases your maximum mana by 17.53, and your regen from Replenishment, Euphoria, and Innervate correspondingly. These things together make Int the best stat for both DPS and mana. Spellpower: Intellect, without the talent bonuses, crit bonus, or mana gains. Basically a weaker form of Intellect that only appears on weapons and trinkets, but is still good. Hit rating/Spirit: 102.45 hit rating gives 1% to hit with spells. With Balance of Power, 1 Spirit and 1 hit rating are identical for gear selection purposes (hit rating is technically very slightly better since it gives melee hit that helps your Treants, but if you ever play Resto at all you probably want to gem Spirit). Along with haste, hit is one of the best DPS stats. Remember that hit rating over the cap of 1742 does nothing, so you need to reforge hit to other stats if you gear has more than this amount (see below). Haste rating: 128.05 haste rating gives 1% spell haste. Again a solid DPS stat. Along with hit, generally a stat you want to look for on gear. Mastery rating: 179.28 mastery rating adds 2% to our Eclipse bonus. Because only about 60% our spells are cast during Eclipse, this makes it weaker than haste rating, point-for-point. Critical strike rating: 179.28 crit rating gives 1% to crit. With Moonfury and a Chaotic Skyflare Diamond, crits with most of our our main spells do 2.09 times the damage of non-crits. Because of the poor rating conversion on crit, it winds up as our worst secondary stat. The stat priority can be briefly summarized as: Int >> haste = hit/Spirit > mastery > crit More details on overall gear strategy at the end of this section. [top]Stat Caps/BreakpointsSome stats change in value at a certain point. Here's a list of these values with all typical raid buffs. You can also check WrathCalcs to see your exact caps in any setup. Note: due to some rounding in-game, it's best to give a leeway of a few haste rating (5-10 points) if you're trying to rely on any haste breakpoint, to ensure that you get your extra tick. Hit: Against a level 88 target, with all buffs, we need 1742 hit rating (17%) to cap at 100%. To check your hit rating, just mouse over it on your character sheet--it already includes the bonus hit from Balance of Power. Against an 87, 86, or 85 target, the caps are 615, 512, and 409 rating respectively. Haste: Now that Wrath is a 2s base cast, it cannot run up against the 1s GCD minimum at any reasonable level of haste. There is a weak haste cap where the GCD hits 1.0s with Nature's Grace active. This requires 1.5/(1.05*1.15) - 1 = 24.22% haste, or 3102 haste rating. The GCD does not hit 1.0s without Nature's Grace until 5489 haste. At certain levels of haste, our DoT's gain extra ticks. With 3/3 Genesis and Moonkin Form, and no Glyph of Starfire or Dark Intent, they get an 11th tick at 1423 haste rating, a 12th tick at 2778, a 13th tick at 4134, and a 14th tick at 5489. When affected by Nature's Grace, the 13th tick comes at 1924 rating, the 14th tick at 3102, the 15th tick at 4281, and the 16th tick at 5459. An important fact here is that the tick rate of a DoT depends only on your haste at the moment it's cast--it does not change dynamically while the DoT is running. Overall, these softcaps are far less important than in WLK. The only one that's really important to know is the hit cap so you can reforge correctly. [top]GemsGem [Burning Shadowspirit Diamond] in your meta socket. Gem [Brilliant Inferno Ruby] in all red/prismatic sockets, and in any blue/yellow socket where the bonus is worse than 20 Int (this is a good guideline--you can always use WrathCalcs to check in detail whether a socket bonus is worth it). In blue/yellow sockets where the bonus is 20 Int or better, use [Purified Demonseye] or [Reckless Ember Topaz]. [top]Set BonusesThe tier 11 (Stormrider's Regalia) set bonuses are both good (especially the 4-piece). Equip them if you have them. The T11 4-piece bonus does add another twist to the rotation--you want to avoid consuming the charges with Moonfire or Starfall (more on this below). Depending on how busy the fight is, you may or may not babysit the buff to this extent to squeeze out a little extra DPS. Even if you don't, however, it is a very good set bonus. [top]TrinketsWhenever possible, evaluate trinkets using the same metric you would any other item. Compute the average uptime of the proc or use effect to obtain an average stat value. WrathCalcs now gives good estimates of most trinkets. The best trinket currently available is [Darkmoon Card: Volcano]. For second place, [Heart of Ignacious] and [Theralion's Mirror] are very close. The Mirror tends to look better on paper, although there can be advantages to an activated trinket (as opposed to a proc). [Bell of Enraging Resonance], [Witching Hourglass], and [Stump of Time] are also good. Note that WrathCalcs will occasionally overvalue some trinkets with haste procs (such as [Witching Hourglass]), if you happen to be be near a DoT breakpoint. This is something that needs to be addressed in a later version. For now, just be suspicious if it tells you that [Witching Hourglass] is much better than epic trinkets. [Mirror of Broken Images] is quite useful in many PvE encounters. Macroing it to Barkskin is the easiest way to use it. [top]Activated trinketsTypically the best time to activate is with your DoT's. Not only does this ensure you get a set of buffed DoT's, but you often refresh DoT's at the beginning of Eclipse. Even better, if it's a 20 second buff (like many are), your 18 second DoT's should get a second set of refreshes during the trinket activation. So, macroing trinkets to IS is not a bad plan if you don't want to deal with them manually all the time (as you'll see below in the DoT's section, you generally refresh IS first). Here's a macro you can stick into any spell (such as IS) to activate a trinket without spamming error messages or sounds:  /script UIErrorsFrame:UnregisterEvent("UI_ERROR_MESSAGE");
/console Sound_EnableSFX 0
/use 14
/console Sound_EnableSFX 1
/script UIErrorsFrame:RegisterEvent("UI_ERROR_MESSAGE");
[top]ConsumablesUse [Flask of the Draconic Mind] or a Cauldron of Battle. Similarly use a 90 Int food (such as [Severed Sagefish Head]) or a Seafood Feast. The best DPS potion is [Volcanic Potion]. You want to use it during Bloodlust. When you're trying to completely maximize your DPS, remember you can click a potion just before combat starts (ask your tank to count down), and then be able to use another potion later in the fight. [top]EnchantsExcluding profession bonuses.
[top]ProfessionsTailoring is currently far better than all other professions.: Lightweave Embroidery gives 580 Int for 15 seconds, 20% proc on spellcast, 45 second cooldown. The average benefit is around 180 Int, minus the 50 Int you usually have on your cloak, for an increase of around 130 Int Beyond that, most professions provide roughly equal gains. Engineering: Synapse Springs give 480 Int, for 10 seconds out of every 60, for 80 Int on average (varies slightly in practice). A macro similar to the one given above for trinkets can be used for glove tinkers--the glove slot is number 10. Leatherworking: 130 Int to bracers in place of the usual 50 Int gives you 80 Intellect. Jewelcrafting: 3 [Brilliant Chimera's Eye] in place of 3 [Brilliant Inferno Ruby] gives 81 Intellect. Blacksmithing is similar. An extra socket each in your wrists and gloves, each with a [Brilliant Inferno Ruby], gives 80 Intellect. Alchemy: Mixology (with your [Flask of the Draconic Mind]) will give you 80 Intellect. Enchanting: 40 Int to each ring gives 80 Intellect. Inscription: 130 Int/25 haste to shoulders in place of the Therazane enchant gives 80 Intellect. The remaining professions are weaker: Herbalism now gives a haste cooldown via Lifeblood. At 480 haste for 20s every 2 minutes, it averages out to 80 haste. Skinning gives 80 crit rating. Mining provides minor survivability benefits, but no DPS gain. [top]Gear Selection[top]General PrinciplesI'm not going to set out full BIS lists here, for a few different reasons. It's best for you to read this guide until you understand the class well enough to choose gear based on the things I've said above. But here's some overall advice to help provide some guidance. Caster epics have Intellect, Stamina, spellpower in the case of weapons, and 2 out of the 5 secondary stats: crit rating, hit rating, haste rating, mastery rating or Spirit. Keep in mind a few rules of thumb, which are enough to get a quick estimate of the value of any piece:
Since the 5% Intellect from Leather Specialization is a strong bonus, you should generally ignore cloth gear. To compare items more precisely and check for upgrades, use WrathCalcs to test different setups. You can also use WrathCalcs to compute DPS weights for all your stats for guidance. Generally though, the above rules are sufficient to figure out which of two items is better. See below for more on WrathCalcs. [top]Optimizing Gear/Gems/Enchants/ReforgesGiven all of the options we have for shuffling stats around now, it can be confusing to find the optimal way to select gear and gem/reforge it while remaining at the hit cap. Computational optimizers like Rawr can assist with this, but knowing the basic guidelines can save you a lot of time when going over your options. It's best to mock up your setup in WrathCalcs and decide how you want to gem/reforge, and then actually do it all at once on live servers. This is a basic way to approach reforging that covers most situations: 1) In each slot, put on your best individual item (see above), ignoring the hit cap. This will generally be your highest-ilvl leather spellpower item, preferring haste/hit or T11 pieces where possible. 2) Gem in the way described above. If you are under the hit cap of 1742, do the following until you hit 1742: 3A) On any crit/haste or mastery/haste pieces, reforge the crit or mastery to hit or Spirit (you may prefer Spirit so you can use your items for Resto spec as well). 4A) Reforge any other pieces. Remember that you can reforge hit onto an item with Spirit, and vice versa. If you were over the hit cap of 1742, do the following until you're just over 1742: 3B) Reforging hit/Spirit to haste on any non-haste items. 4B) Reforging hit/Spirit to mastery on any haste items. 5) Once you are at hit cap, if you have any unreforged items that don't have haste, reforge the crit or mastery on them to haste. 6) There's some possible further optimization by reforging crit/mastery to hit on some items and reforging back on others, or by changing between red and purple gems, but at this point you'll have to work it our yourself or resort to automated tools. [top]Casting MechanicsThe first rule of DPS is to always be casting (or waiting out a GCD after an instant). Anytime a spell ends, you should already have queued your next one (see below). Don't delay a cast to make a decision or react to proc--train yourself to start another spell regardless of what's going on, and change the subsequent spellcast if necessary after you've had another second to think. As a preliminary note, this type of macro might be useful for automatically assisting with your nukes when you have a raid member targeted: #showtooltip /use [@target, harm, nodead][@targettarget, harm, nodead][] Starfire [top]Spell QueueingFirst, recall that the client processes events when you release the key. Keep that in mind for learning your timing. Some mods have options to change this if you like. Cataclysm introduces a new ability queueing system, similar to the single-spell queue in WLK but more consistent and more customizable. When you send a spell command to the server, if your character is unable to cast immediately (typically because it's still casting or GCD-locked from your last spell), the server will see if you become ready to cast within a certain short window. If you do, it will begin the cast immediately. You can set the length of this window with an interface option called "Custom Latency Tolerance." You want to set this value to a high enough amount that you can always press the next spell key comfortably before the current spell finishes, and never have a gap between casts. But you don't want to set it too high, because you can't change your mind after you queue a spell, so your reaction time is effectively slower if you "lock in" each spell a long time before it begins casting. Experiment and find something you're comfortable with. [top]Spell Rotations[top]The Short Version
For more detail, continue to the following sections. [top]The Eclipse RotationYou will generally operate in a four-step cycle.
Basically, you cast Wrath until Lunar procs and cast Starfire until Solar procs. But once DoTs and other instants are involved, thinking in terms of the four-phase cycle helps you plan your casts well. [top]Subtleties of TransitionsSolar: You want to watch for when your Solar energy is at 80 or higher, so that you know your current Starfire cast is your last one, and queue a Wrath. If you're planning to cast Insect Swarm/Sunfire at the beginning of Solar, cast one Wrath or Starsurge first. If you queue IS after the last Starfire, it will cast before Eclipse actually begins. Lunar: Since Wrath gives its Eclipse energy upon landing, it's a bit trickier to time the swap to Starfire correctly. If your Lunar energy as you start a Wrath is 74 or higher, it will be your last Wrath (because the one in the air will give 13 energy when it lands). Do your best to avoid casting extra spells beyond what's necessary to proc Eclipse. As above, if you're planning to cast Moonfire when Eclipse starts, cast one Starsurge or Starfire first. If you use the mod Balance Power Tracker (below) things look slightly different. That mod can display a modified energy bar, which projects your energy value from currently casting/traveling spells, so all you have to do is check for when it reads 100. Remember that if you move or interrupt a cast though, your energy will appear to go back down. [top]Managing EclipseWhen you die, you Eclipse bar is reset to 0. So on learning attempts for any boss, you'll get used to starting from 0 energy. As you attempt a particular fight more and more, you can sometimes plan out your Eclipses for certain AoE/movement phases. An important technique is that using Moonfire/Sunfire spam doesn't move your Eclipse bar, so sometimes you can use that to control when you enter or leave Eclipse at various points in an encounter. When you're not wiping, you can start boss fights at 100 energy with a freshly procced Eclipse. As you get near the end of the trash, go to the end of the Eclipse bar and stay there (by stopping Wrath/Starfire usage). During trash itself, where you're often going to be using DoT's and AoE spells, you can simply sit in Solar and use the Sunfire-based style (see below). [top]DoT RefreshingCompared to WLK, our DoT's are far stronger now. You want to do your best to maintain very high uptime on both of them. Typically, the only time you will hold up recasting of a DoT is if it falls off and the corresponding Eclipse is coming up very soon--you'll wait one or two casts and refresh at the beginning of Eclipse. If both DoT's are coming up at around the same time when you start Eclipse, remember that Nature's Grace will only affect the second one, so you want to remember to use Insect Swarm first (because Moonfire/Sunfire is stronger than IS under either Eclipse). If you have the tier 11 4-piece bonus, you can consider waiting an extra cast or two before casting Moonfire/Sunfire, to avoid using a charge of the Astral Alignment on the weak Moonfire direct-damage hit. Cataclysm changed the way DoT refreshing works--when you refresh a currently ticking DoT, you no longer waste a partial tick. Significantly, if you refresh a DoT when it has only one tick remaining, there is no loss at all. This means the optimal time to refresh a DoT is during its last tick, thereby maintaining true 100% uptime. Failing that, refresh at the same time you do now, as soon at it falls off. DoT ticks use your spellpower, haste, and +% damage (e.g. Eclipse) values from the moment the DoT was cast--they do not update in real time until the next time you cast the DoT. Crit chance of the ticks, on the other hand, does change dynamically if you gain or lose crit buffs while the DoT is ticking. [top]StarsurgeSimilarly to DoT's, simply use this on cooldown or any time Shooting Stars procs. As with DoT's, the only notable exception is if it would be the last spell before Eclipse. Then you can hold it up for one spell to cast it with the Eclipse buff. With the T11 4-piece bonus, you can hold up Starsurge a bit longer for the guaranteed Starsurge crit as soon as Eclipse starts. [top]Other spells
[top]Bloodlust/HeroismWiththe WLK haste cap issues gone, our spells are now all buffed nicely by Bloodlust. Nothing significant will change during the rotation, except that DoT's are exceedingly good. Make sure to DoT any possible target as soon as Bloodlust starts, probably even clipping any existing DoT's at that point (use any timers here if possible, such as Berserking and your Volcanic Potion). If you have a Nature's Grace near the beginning of Bloodlust, even better to spam DoT's with. [top]MovementThe basic solution to any movement situation is to try to get the most out of DoT's and Lunar Shower. Cast Moonfire the instant movement begins (or even just before) to start stacking the buff, then spam it on the target while running. Use IS and any other instants you have available (such as Shooting Stars) as well. Finally, if at all possible, you want to be in an Eclipse for movement, although you might often have little control over this. It's important to manage our DoT's well during high-movement situations. You want to plan your casting so that you cast DoT's (or other instants) while moving, and nukes while standing still. This requires you to be highly aware of both your spell rotation and your surroundings, so you can anticipate movement. It's always worth delaying a DoT by a few seconds to cast it while moving, so you can cast another nuke while still. This also holds true for other instants. [top]Multiple Targets and AoEIn multi-target (3 or more) situations, Wild Mushroom and DoT's tend to overpower all other spells due to their high DPET.
[top]The Sunfire Spam "Rotation"In Solar Eclipse, Insect Swarm and Sunfire (with Lunar Shower) do quite a lot of damage, and do not deplete your Solar Energy. Because of this, you can sometimes use an alternate "rotation" where you use only these two spells, and remain in Solar Eclipse permanently. You simply keep moving to maintain Lunar Shower, maintain both DoT's on all possible targets, and spam Sunfire on any target at all other times. The advantages are constant mobility, very little attention required, and virtually no mana cost. The only important factor is to keep your DoT's ticking on everything, it's where most of the DPS comes from. You can also use Wild Mushroom and Hurricane as necessary, which will all be buffed by your Eclipse. Against a single target, this is a DPS loss and generally not recommended (although you will wind up doing something similar whenever you're forced to move). As the number of available targets for your DoT's increases however, this technique becomes increasingly viable. It's something to keep in mind for trash, add phases, or any other multi-target situation where the added mobility is helpful. As mentioned above, you can also use it to save an Eclipse for an important part of an encounter. One refinement is that you can work instant Starsurges into the mix, depending on the situation (you get very frequent Shooting Stars procs with all the DoT's going). Your Solar Eclipse will fade after 7 Starsurges, so if you want to maintain this rotation for a long time, you can't do it. But if you're only doing it for a short fight or part of a fight, Starsurge will add DPS. If you're doing this often, Blessing of the Grove adds a marginal amount of DPS. [top]Mods & ToolsSquawkAndAwe: A convenient set of bars for all Moonkin-related timers. Generally working now in 4.0. Balance Power Tracker: An alternative energy bar for 4.0. Among various display features, this bar has the option to add the expected energy from currently casting/traveling spells to your energy bar, to help you see when you need to swap spells for the next Eclipse. Try this feature out to see if you like it, but remember that if you've been practicing with the default energy bar, the timing change will take a bit of getting used to. Quartz: as a primary caster, you should have a proper cast bar. This is an excellent one. Rawr is up and running for level 85, I believe, but I've not played with it yet. WrathCalcs (attached to this post). Moonkin theorycraft spreadsheet. Will give you the exact value of stats/talents/glyphs in your current setup, and lets you experiment with different rotations. Originally made by Adoriele here. I've since taken it over and used it as the platform for my own theorycrafting, reflected in the version posted here. [top]Using WrathCalcsFor those of you who used WrathCalcs in Wrath of the Lich King, the main change is a new front page where you can select gear, gems, enchants, and reforges from drop-down menus. Stats are automatically totaled and passed to the second page, where you'll find all the features from before: talent and buff selection, and all the same detailed outputs. For everyone else, here's a basic description to get you started: 1) Input your gear, gems, enchants, and reforges on the front page. The basic rule is that any light-blue box is a dropdown menu where you can choose something. The sheet will automatically black out any enchant/gem slots that don't exist, and will highlight any inactive socket bonuses or meta gems in red. To un-reforge (or un-gem or un-enchant) and item, just the delete the current reforge/gem/enchant selection. 2) On the second page, input your talents, glyphs and buffs. Again, light blue boxes are menus where you can enter your setup. Don't modify the pink boxes, which are the stats inherited from the front page--these are shown so you can see the stat weights (see below). You can also set some parameters about how you use your spells in the purple boxes. 3) Basic results are in green boxes. You can read your overall DPS and net mana use in the "main results" box (these are also copied to the front page so you can easily see how they change when you change gear). Other green boxes show your hit/haste breakpoints, the DPET and DPM of each of your spells, and the damage breakdown of all your spells (also shown in the pie chart). 4) Advanced results are in the blue boxes. These require the use of data tables, which you have to recompute manually by pressing F9 (Windows) or Cmd-= (Mac). These include: a) next to each stat, buff, glyph, and talent, the amount of DPS and MP5 derived from that particular thing. For stats, it shows the benefit of having 1 more of that stat. For talents and other bonuses, it shows a) if you have no points in the talent, the value you would gain from one point, b) if you have points, the value you currently gain from those points (i.e. the amount you would lose by dropping them). b) next to the spell table, the amount by an additional stat point improves each individual spell. I've uploaded a second copy of the sheet without the tables. This will work in OpenOffice, and everything will work besides the advanced outputs. Might not do this every time, but will try to occasionally until I find a better solution. There's also a profile save/load feature now (only works in Windows Excel) so you can swap between different gear sets more easily. [top]Known Spreadsheet Issues
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I read that Sunfire is bugged in OP, not benefitting from haste. I was originally looking for information or concensus on DoT refresh rules in case they were different as I noticed that Sunfire ticks harder than Moonfire and wasn't completely sure if you would overwrite a ticking Moonfire once you gained Sunfire. From the looks of the numbers, if haste was working, you'd break even, not counting GCD, if you clipped about 25-40% remaining of the Moonfire. Counting the GCD, that % probably disappears, though, so I guess it's back to no clipping your DoTs. That said, Sunfire doesn't appear to be extending Moonfire (and vice versa). That said, if you're only most of the way to getting another tick into the DoT time period, there should be no tick in the last second and a half or so of Moonfire which you could clip without consequence. Sunfire, without haste benefits, you'd have to wait for it to fall off to not clip.
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10/18/10, 2:15 PM
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As far as the talents are concerned, we really don't have much leeway to get different talents than the one in the guide. I actually started investigating the values since I was getting a discrepancy of around 10-15% (on an average of many-many runs to eliminate the RNG factor to the best extent) than your guide would provide with my values plugged in and the correct buffs and glyphs etc. Maybe that error is to be expected at the beginning since you haven't been able to model everything accurately or take into consideration the hyperspeed accelerators/black magic enchant in your calcs. Nevertheless, your spreadsheet has been an invaluable resource for the last year that I've been using it. |
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I went ahead and calculated the next breakpoint for +8 ticks based on your spreadsheet and found it to be 1699 (when under NG). Configuring my setup and getting 1690 yields +7 ticks, while configuring for 1700 yields +8 ticks. I suppose the breakpoints are indeed correct while I was mislead from the NG being a haste buff and not being counted as haste rating. My point of interest now would be that with both black magic and hyperspeed proccing I sit at 1672 haste: is it worth to re-gem to reach ~1700 when under both those buffs to get +1 tick or the uptime of it isn't sufficient? I would lose presumably 30 int to get that 30 haste. I know that at first glance losing int to get haste is bad practice but the gain of another tick situationally will probably make it worth it. Any comments on it would be appreciated. |
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