Welcome to the Elitist Jerks forums, a WoW discussion forum targeted towards topics regarding high-end raiding and analysis of game mechanics. We ask you to take a few minutes to read the following before making use of these forums.

First, a point of clarification. The name of these forums is not intended ironically; we have high standards for the discussion that occurs herein, and we're quite unapologetic about it. If you feel our rules are stupid or arbitrary, we don't really care. If you don't wish to follow them, you're welcome to return to the official Blizzard forums.

Following is a brief listing of our forum rules; note that it is by no means exhaustive, as in our experience people are quite innovative in finding new ways to be stupid. These are simply a set of guidelines to get you started in the right direction. If you follow them, you will generally do fine here; however, if you concoct some creative new form of stupidity, our moderators feel no need to restrain themselves in letting you know.

1. All posters are to make an effort to communicate clearly. In particular, all posts should be made in a reasonable approximation of proper English. We realize that a significant number of you are not native speakers, and we do not expect perfection: merely effort. Please obey basic rules of capitalization and punctuation, avoid chatroom abbreviations ("lol", "imo", "u", and the like), and pay at least minimal attention to sentence and paragraph structure. This includes not starting a new paragraph for each sentence.
2. All opinions should be stated as succinctly as possible. Do not make multiple consecutive posts; rather, multi-quote and include all your ideas in a single post. Do not quote huge blocks of text to add a short reply; instead, quote only what you need to to make your point. Do not break a single quoted reply into multiple blocks; doing so needlessly lengthens your post without aiding its readability. And don't provide unnecessary backstory: if it isn't relevant to the question you're asking or the point you're making, we don't need to know about it.
3. All discussion should be both polite and civil. Trolling or flaming in any form is forbidden. Just because someone disagrees with you does not mean they are stupid or on drugs and their personal hygiene isn't really relevant to the discussion. Regardless of the merit (or lack thereof) of your argument, it should be made in a way that is neither insulting nor condescending.
4. Whining in any form is forbidden. Blizzard is not incompetent or stupid and they are not intentionally screwing you over and neither is anyone else. If all you're going to do is complain, don't bother posting.
5. Threads should be started if and only if there is some reasonable topic to discuss. If the issue you wish to discuss is covered in an existing thread, use it rather than creating a new one. If you are asking a simple question that you expect to have a simple answer, ask it in one of the "Simple Questions/Simple Answers" threads. But if you feel there is a topic of discussion not well-covered by existing threads, feel free to start a new thread to discuss it.
6. Do not post unless you have something new and worthwhile to say. Do not bump, quote for truth, cross-post, or post only to say thanks. We don't want to hear your funny story about something that happened in your raid last night, your baseless speculation is unproductive, and your idea for a new ability really isn't that interesting. We don't care what gear you are hoping to get or just received. If you have an idea you'd like to share with the community, support it with analysis, testing, or both that indicates you've put some thought into it. (Note: Posting of a new untested spec falls under this rule, unless you have done the grunt work and have information to support your amazing new spec don't even bother posting it here.)
7. Do not beg for hand-holding. These are forums for discussion and analysis, not for answering any question that you might happen to dream up. Search and read before posting--do not post a question unless you are fairly confident that the answer isn't widely known or easily attainable. In particular, we do not want to take a look at your armory or WWS to tell you what you're doing wrong and we're not interested in making your tough gear or spec decisions for you. We expect you to use the search function and also to read the first post as well as the last 5 pages of the thread you are posting in. Chances are your question has already been answered. Additionally, do not post asking for confirmation of a simulation result. If you think there is a problem with the Sim you are welcome to PM the author.
8. All accounts must have a valid WoW profile. If you no longer play and have deleted all characters you used to have, you may select the "No WoW Account" option; otherwise, this information must be filled out for your main character. If you fail to observe this rule you'll be permanently banned from our forums. We do not permit anonymous posting.
9. Do not sign your posts. People can see who you are from the profile printed to the left of each post, so signing your posts is redundant and simply takes up space. Similarly, you do not need to link your armory in your post, as if people wish to see it they can get it from your profile.
10. Do not respond to terrible posts. Do not respond to a blatantly awful post (a post that is in clear violation of the rules) either in an attempt to moderate them or to answer a question they posed. Your post will just be warned/infracted and removed with the post you are replying to. If you feel that a post is in violation of these rules, please report it and the moderators will deal with it as we feel is appropriate.

If you violate a forum rule, you will receive an infraction. Most infractions are worth one point, although we reserve the right to give you more at any time if we feel you deserve them. If you accumulate too many infraction points, you will receive an automatic (usually temporary) ban which revokes your posting privileges, as follows:

• 2 Points - 1 Day
• 4 Points - 3 Days
• 6 Points - 1 Week
• 8 Points - 1 Month
• 10 Points - Permanent

All new accounts are muted for a period of one day following registration. After this, these accounts are on reply-only probation until 10 successful posts are made, so you can't make a new thread until you've proved your posting capability while conforming to the aforementioned rules by contributing to established discussions. In addition, familiarize yourself with The Banhammer, an archive of all infractions given by the moderators here; it will give you some examples of what not to do. Also feel free to take a gander over The Dung Heap, which will give you a good idea of what these forums would look like if we weren’t such jerks.

Thank you for joining the discussion!

Why You Ought to Use /LFGuild

1. This forum has an established reputation for attracting the type of gamer you want in your guild.
2. Over 1 million of these gamers visit this site every month.
3. /LFGuild puts your guild right in front of their face.

How to Use /LFGuild

Firstly, you should be aware of a couple of the things that make this forum unique from the rest of Elitist Jerks:

• There is a $25 fee to create a new guild advertisement (thread) in these forums. Patrons are able to circumvent the fee and post recruitment threads at will.
• Threads in this forum are sorted by Date Created--which means default sorting is unaffected by replies.

The creation fee is not there to merely pad our pockets; it also serves as an effective deterrent to those wishing to recruit for their comedy/vanity guilds and for those unwilling to craft a thoughtful advertisement. Likewise, tactics employed to keep your thread visible, such as bumping, will be ineffective here. The quality of your posting is the only metric by which others will judge your guild. Also, you will have full editing (and thread closing) privileges here. All threads with a post in the last 30 days will be visible and every thread will forever be accessible through forum search. Also, at no time should any guild have more than one viewable thread (regardless of paid or Patron ownership).

Secondly, your thread title must take the following form:

[Faction][Server] <Guild> Title

[Horde][Mal'Ganis] <hellsoaps bros> cum party 2nite

[Alliance][Kel'Thuzad] <Gune Skwad> Looking for a T5-geared Destrolock

Lastly, put some effort into the actual content of your recruitment post (it will be seen by a ton of people who have no qualms making snap decisions about others). You ought to include a concise, but information-rich, summary of who you are, what you are looking for in an applicant and any other significant data you think may help an ideal candidate make an informed decision about your guild. A template (cribbed from Gurg) that can be altered to your needs can be found below:


If you have any further questions, don't hesitate to PM me or e-mail me directly. Thanks!