Originally Posted by Baphomette
I guess my point is that I would not value HoR's Strength at its theoretical maximum, though I don't know how to model how much lower it really is.
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This is true, and I have experienced what you're talking about with a poor chance to proc. However, heart of rage has the advantage of granting more passive haste which is arguably more useful than on-use haste for a frost DK, though the same argument could be made for passive strength. 2148 str is pretty useless if it procs during a particularly bad lapse of RNG, but the ICD does tend to line up somewhat with every other PoF, and the ghoul. 145 haste from direct reforging, and additional potential haste from the remaining expertise allowing more haste to be reforged on other gear where expertise otherwise would have been needed. The mathematical breakpoint for heart of rage being worse than apparatus is around a 94 second ICD which, given its sometimes poor proc rate, could very well be exceeded. Frost in general is very RNG heavy, so just as you can't really plan around having awesome RNG, you shouldn't necessarily plan around terrible RNG either. I try to maximize average output, since that's about all I can really control.