Sacrifice works regardless of whether the Paladin casting sacrifice on you is hitting Heroic Will or not.

I'm wondering about something and I think you guys can help.

In a scenario of a DK tank being healed by Disc Priest and Holy Paladin, what is the order in which the absorbtion mechanics are being used?

My gut feeling is that the order is Divine Aegis[Priest]/Illuminated Healing[Paladin] -> PW: Shield [Priest] -> Blood Shield [DK], but we all know how much attention we should place in gut feelings.

I don't have any WoL of my own with the said setup so I can't look into it myself, but I'm gonna guess I'm not the only one who was wondering what happens in the said scenario.

Why am I asking?
Well, If I'm to assume that the Priest and Holy pala shields are being taken into account first, that gives me additional XY seconds to pool my runes and wait for the big hits with a bit more comfort, which might in turn end up being 2-3 DS's in quick succesion after a major damage streak.

About the quantity absorbed by AMZ it depends on your current AP, so depending on procs, it will vary. Also the window of opportunity to use AMZ on heroic is rather small since the cast is only 3 seconds, if you put it too early it breaks to AoE damage before Hour of Twilight, and if you put it too late it won't work because of server lag, so you have to use it at the start of the cast.

I have two questions actually, the first concerning the use of blood tap as unholy and the second concerns stat values as calculated through simcraft.

1) As unholy the use of blood tap inevitably leads to the activation of a death rune and a frost rune, which always has me wondering what is the best thing to do with the frost rune, SS followed by an IT, Fester to activate them both as death, or SS and just wait on a blood rune before festering to burn that frost.

2) The unholy stat weights while wielding Gurth have been calculated as str>hit>haste>mastery>crit, but in any sim that I run I end up with str>hit>crit>mastery>haste. In my sims the values of str and hit are, within a slight variance, the same as the accepted values in the OP in the UH thread. This has lead me to be curious if this is either because of how personal stats at time of sim can affect the scale factors of the various stats or because I have failed to set up something correctly in simcraft. (All sims run at 25k iterations)

Also would like to pick someones brain as to the "rotation" I follow the priority system as given by the thread, but always seem to end up with downtime and numbers lower than I should have. If willing to let me pick toss me a PM.

I've only had one wipe night on Ultra HC so far but haven't had significant difficulty living through HOT as unholy.
Your RL should probably ensure you're in a group that offers some other assistance (almost anything will do - the health buff from war shout, priest bubble, etc), although I didn't always get that. Obviously the combo you mention that let you survive is one option.

I suspect the real keys to surviving on your own are:
1) ensure you're at completely full health when HOT hits. Our RL called out people in each group to top off before HOT. If your health is not quite full, healthstone (or worst case, Death Strike but ewww).
2) Timing. I wait about a second after HOT starts casting, then go IBF first since it won't wear off. Then I AMS about a second before HOT. Then somewhere between 1 and .5 sec before HOT, cast AMZ. If you take any damage to either shield, then the amount you can take from HOT is decreased. I usually was surviving with between 10k and 50k health. I only died once to HOT and that was because I hadn't saved a rune for AMZ.

Use IBF around 5 seconds before the HoT cast so you mitigate the random AoE damage both before and after HoT itself. There is no random AoE damage during the HoT cast itself so once he starts that, go to town with AMS and AMZ, that 3 sec window is pretty forgiving on timing.

If you have it on the single target IMO you should
1)Check if you have an outbreak, because
a)If you have outbreak, you can just switch off the Blood Tap buff to return blood rune to its place and strike FeS with clean runes(deals no difference)
b)if you will have outbreak in <30 seconds and your diceases are still OK to refresh you hit SS easily, BUT you 're using IT only if you've got >23RP to get a coil. Otherwise you better keep your frost rune
2)If you're choosed to use your rune for FeS the outbreaked diceases, be sure that you have some kind of proc/push/Bloodlust in next 20-30 seconds of the fight.
Usually I'm conserving F rune(but if you're bloodboiling on AoE, you better IT to get some more coils)



Good day, I'm unholy DK and I'm dying in my variety of gear without haste
Right now my stat weights because of the unbalanced gear are <2100 haste(theoretically the second GCD wall for Gargolye) and 1984 crit. Even wearing 4pct13 with Gurthalak, Mastery reforge gives me crit>mastery due to some non-drop gear for badges. Is there any reason to equip 391 gear to sustain 2100+haste for Gargolye? My reforge was broken in such a way because of lack of the haste+gear(nothing non-set drops from DD these days), right now I've done reforge to kill Ultraxion HM. Anyone tried such a reforge for other battles? <2200haste in unholy, I mean. Because I'm pretty sure it's okay for masteryfrost, but unsure about GCD walls of Garg. Heard that 2200+UF/Bloodlust/Timewarp=16-17 Gargolye casts, but no more than that
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Thanks

And also I have a weird question: am I the only Udk who uses blood boil on Yor'sarge HM elephants?

Depending on your personal stat values, you will encounter at least one, or possibly two, haste breakpoints in this tier. The first breakpoint, valued at ~1600 personal haste, will provide the Gargoyle an attack speed that exceeds its own global cooldown of 1.5 seconds. Effectively, any inherited haste beyond this point can have no effect for him: the Gargoyle is GCD locked. The second possible breakpoint in this tier occurs for the player at ~2600 haste.

That is straight from the Unholy Dk thread.

Looking at your Haste you're at 2700. It's been pretty 'decided' that haste values between 2,000-2,300 starts getting to the point where you can't spend your resources quickly enough (especially at low expertise values), which would place crit/mastery/expertise higher up on stat weights over haste, that's likely the results you're seeing in the sims. In terms of Crit being over mastery I can't really see that being the case considering ~50% of your damage is impacted by it. Looking over all the top logs for 25H Ultra (given, no DnD) all the top parses are still going by the standard haste (2000-2300 range) > mastery > crit.

The value of haste that pushes you in to that area is largely based on personal latency too. The haste values for me playing at ~120-150 latency are drastically different from a friend playing at ~10-30. It's something you have to play around with.

At the time of the post that I made my haste was more around 2400 and I was using a Gurth. It gave me significantly more down time than I preferred so I went back to a different weapon in order to push more haste.

wowreforge.com is extremely useful for reforging. Input the stat weights for masterfrost into the respective stat fields, select the option "close to" from the hit cap drop down menu (default it is cap #1), and the expertise cap should already be set correctly, then you hit the button and it gives you a solid way to reforge your gear.