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Old 06/28/12, 1:34 AM   #241
gharnef
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Orc Death Knight
 
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Zul'Jin
Originally Posted by Kapaya View Post
Hello Agian
Gonna try masterfrost instead of hastefrost so my Question is do the rotation change anything or.? Thx for all help
The rotation changes entirely. In the mastertfrost priority, your main skill is howling blast and you only use obliterate when your unholy runes are about to cap or when the second rune is about halfway when you have a KM proc.

You also need to make sure you go all the way to the spell hit cap.

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Old 07/18/12, 7:02 AM   #242
HellHamsterr
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Originally Posted by gharnef View Post
The rotation changes entirely. In the mastertfrost priority, your main skill is howling blast and you only use obliterate when your unholy runes are about to cap or when the second rune is about halfway when you have a KM proc.

You also need to make sure you go all the way to the spell hit cap.
Spell hit cap is not necessary at all as only ~30-35% of masterfrost damage relies on that, when your extra 200 hit rating to get spell hit capped could be better spent on mastery etc.

@ Kapaya

You basically use Howling blast instead of Obliterate, unless you have the second unholy rune coming up, or when you have very high resources and KM has procced etc, then you Obliterate. So all you need to do is to keep one unholy rune up at all times, so when you Frost strike you get the other 2 empty runes to proc for more Howling blasts. Obviously use Frost strike when a rune is completely empty, same as hastefrost.

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Old 08/12/12, 10:52 PM   #243
nilshaus
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Just out of curiosity, how did the +20% rune speed bonus to blood presence come about originally?

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Old 08/14/12, 3:30 PM   #244
saiyajinmaster
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Ysondre
I don't think it was any more complex than the fact that they changed rune regen in cata to give haste some value and rotations a bit of breathing room, but that left blood with its lack of haste and lack of unholy presence feeling VERY slow. Obviously it's a survivability gain too, but we just had a ton of open GCDs when tanking iirc.

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Old 08/16/12, 1:18 PM   #245
Ashokk
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Gilneas
Question about unholy, which pres should we be using unholy or frost?

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Old 08/16/12, 3:30 PM   #246
gharnef
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Zul'Jin
Unholy always uses unholy (live and beta).

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Old 08/24/12, 8:53 PM   #247
Thepiegod
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Magtheridon
I remember seeing something a while ago about Undead getting the racial that causes them to have a chance to do shadow damage on hit and heal for that same ammount. Is that still going to live and, if so, where does that place Undead in a ranking for races for Unholy.

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Old 08/25/12, 8:25 PM   #248
CB2BiG4U
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Uldaman
Undeads underwater breathing racial was turned into a damage/heal. Touch of the grave is what it is called. Siphons life from an enemy and returns it to the undead player.

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Old 08/26/12, 3:41 AM   #249
Thepiegod
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Magtheridon
Edit: Unecessary, please delete

Last edited by Thepiegod : 08/26/12 at 3:45 AM. Reason: Snarky Uneccessary post made because I should be sleeping

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Old 08/27/12, 12:17 PM   #250
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I'm closing this thread and copying the first post to a new thread for the new expansion. Carry on.


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