How is Plague Leech the best talent for single target DPS in the first tier. I'm probably misunderstanding the math behind it, it drops Blood Plague and Frost Fever from the target, and gives us one Death Rune, it then costs us one Unholy and one Frost rune to put the dots back on the target. Would we only use Plague Leech when Outbreak was off of cooldown?

The key behind utilising Plague Leech is coinciding its use with Outbreak of other methods of free disease application. It requires a great deal of micromanagement and adds a new level of complexity to gameplay. I personally can't claim to find it appealing at all for Unholy.

For Frost however, consider that Frost Fever already has a near 100% uptime thanks for Howling Blast usage. DW Frost already prioritises Howling Blast spam rather than Obliterate (and games Frost/Death Runes by always holding 1 Unholy rune), thus you'll usually want Blood Plague up for its own sake rather than as a damage modifier. You could therefore time Plague Leech usage to coincide with your second Unholy rune coming off cooldown and immediately using the resulting Death Rune to Howling Blast and then Plague Strike to reapply Blood Plague.

In summary: Plague Leech is a proven DPS increase, but its level of micromanagement varies for all specs. DW Frost definitely has the most forgiving margin for error here, making it a safe spec to begin with if you like the idea of the talent.

Hello, hello,
I need an advice of Unholy DKs killed Sinestra in 5.0.*
The reason I'm asking is, I killed Sinestra as a DK 3 times in my life.
1st-for achievement
2-for Undying achievement
3-for Guild Achievement.
All three times were on 4.2-4.3, all three times I was used to spec to frost just because my Timmy was running under Sinestra and was soaked by molten lava.
Even if I was placing him manually face-to-face, he was running away...after DT, and Sinestra is not a fight where you want to spend lots of time to control your pet(got something else to control as well).
Does anyone knows how it goes now? Guys are calling me to join their last tries, and I have no idea if I'm able to burst with unholy now.
Really appreciate your help,
thanks.

With Mogu'shan Vaults unlocked, what rotation do you plan to use as a Frost DK during The Stone Guard 10M encounter? Single Target or Multi Target? We can hit two Guards at once but in similar situations (double target) I'm not sure what's the best way to go.
A different way to ask this question is: how many targets do you need to start using your multi target rotation?
Thank you

DRW will not copy Unholy Blight, but it will copy an outbreak cast which puts up a double set of dots and yes, you do have to have DRW set up its own set with either an out cast our PS/IT to get a double spread since it will copy pestilence but since if does not have a set of diseases tied to itself to copy with its pestilence it wont. As far as I am aware it then copies just about every other attack that you can utilize, BB, Soul Reaper, HS, DS, RS yadda yadda.

Hey all,

Anyone can help with this?

World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis

These are Feng HC tries (none ended up to a kill) and the DK in question is obviously Mollywhomp (me) (the other is Blood). Can you find the reason of such low damage done or is it normal for the gear? I would like some suggestions please.

Thank you in advance!

Debby ~
The trinket from brewfest is bad, heroic eye of unmaking is actually better. Try to grab lessons of the dark-master or the one from stormstout brewery.
You're a little low on expertise, but being an orc, you can grab an axe for a free 1%, 340 rating. I'd suggest the gleaming ravager.
You could grab a mastery enchant on your bracers.
Getting expertise capped, even at the cost of some haste, is worth it.
As far as your logs, you averaged 33.3% crit rate on oblits, and a 27.5% crit rate on FSs. Using more KM procs on oblits and less on FSs will help.
Good luck!

It is worth to cap hit/expertise as blood dk (for more Scent of Blood procs)? Almost all top raiding bdk don't bother with it, but I still asking, because of more runic power, mean more tier 5 procs for more runes, and more death strikes.

I socketed haste after 2 50k sims showed me at 1.42 for haste and 2.63 for str for quite a ways up on the plot points.

I would imagine most people either a) know that at some point str will be better and so are doing it now, or b) don't trust the change in theory and aren't going to change their minds anytime soon.

I personally found a dps increase and a QoL increase because of the extra haste. Having runes be more reliable and consistent made game play easier, which was worth any possible loss.

I did sim's and scaled my weights and it showed haste greater then half to. Though I tried gemming haste and then simm'd at 50k again and my dps went down by about 2-4k. That is why I don't gem pure haste.

Use simcraft to run plots to show the break points for the stats.