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Old 11/01/12, 5:29 PM   #31
Zakaveli
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Death Knight
 
Magtheridon
Okay I added the plots but I dont notice anything different in my report. I also just ran simCraft while reforged to mastery, ran it again and haste > mastery ...reforged to haste and ran again...mastery > haste . What am I supposed to stick with? lol I assume mastery will be on top for multi target fights

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Old 11/01/12, 6:20 PM   #32
CB2BiG4U
Glass Joe
 
Orc Death Knight
 
Uldaman
It was said but I will say it again. Run your simcraft with plots and it will bring up another graph that shows the break points of haste, mastery, ect... At that point you know when to stop stacking mastery and stack more haste and vice versa.

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Old 11/07/12, 2:00 AM   #33
Zakaveli
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Death Knight
 
Magtheridon
Thanks for the help! When you guys run your sims do you limit the scale/plot choices? Right now I'm only doing str/haste/mastery, do you recomend more? Thanks

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Old 11/27/12, 4:26 AM   #34
lichdawg
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Undead Death Knight
 
Archimonde (EU)
I would like to ask a question regarding item VP upgrades. Is it fair to assume, that considering our stat weights, the optimal upgrades for a DK will be:

If BIS or weapon then upgrade, otherwise upgrade the item that provide your highest main stat.

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Old 11/27/12, 4:37 AM   #35
7alisman
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Orc Death Knight
 
Skullcrusher
The item level increase is linear, and identical from one piece of gear to the next, with the only differences being it's initial budget (ie, gloves have less stats then chest or legs). If valor was an endless supply, I would agree with focusing on the highest primary stat gain, but due to the weekly caps I'd argue you might be better off banking it for that pretty purple you have been waiting for.

As far as straight throughput is concerned, you'll probably get the biggest bang for your buck focusing on weapons and trinkets (namely the DMC as it is so easily obtained, and arguably top 3 BiS before the upgrades).

In the end (excluding potential racial benefits), you don't want to waste 1500 valor on making a 489 Elegion a 497, only to have a 496 Scimitar of Seven Stars drop you could have upgraded to a 504.

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Old 11/27/12, 7:11 AM   #36
• Jessamy
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Troll Death Knight
 
Mal'Ganis
There's a further complication to consider. Not all trinkets gain the same amount when upgraded. For example, here are the 3 trinkets contending for BiS before 5.1.

Darkmist Vortex - Trinkets - Armor - Items - WowDB
Lei Shen's Final Orders - Trinkets - Armor - Items - WowDB
Relic of Xuen - Trinkets - Armor - Items - WowDB

 static increaseproc increaseuptime
Darkmist Vortext heroic101 STR606 haste~19.8%
Lei Shen heroic95 haste282 STR~41.8%
DMC: Tiger74 STR235 STR~32.1%


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Old 11/28/12, 7:02 AM   #37
Khazim
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Night Elf Death Knight
 
Ulduar (EU)
Hello,

I am currently wondering about 2 things concerning unholy and fail to find conclusive information. I know that summons no longer take snapshots these days, but how do diseases work? I used to apply diseases with strong buffs in order to keep them up with FS in their buffed state. Is this still possible?

Also, which is the best way to use on use trinkets? I currently use them when summoning Gary and Unholy Frenzy to maximize their effects, but I have read somewhere that it would be worth it to macro it with dark transformation because the ghoul in its buffed state has become quite powerful. Which one is stronger now?

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Old 11/28/12, 8:39 AM   #38
Thepiegod
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Orc Death Knight
 
Magtheridon
Originally Posted by Khazim View Post
Hello,

I am currently wondering about 2 things concerning unholy and fail to find conclusive information. I know that summons no longer take snapshots these days, but how do diseases work? I used to apply diseases with strong buffs in order to keep them up with FS in their buffed state. Is this still possible?

Also, which is the best way to use on use trinkets? I currently use them when summoning Gary and Unholy Frenzy to maximize their effects, but I have read somewhere that it would be worth it to macro it with dark transformation because the ghoul in its buffed state has become quite powerful. Which one is stronger now?
Diseases still have their damage calculated from the attack power values at the time they are applied, so it is best to apply them with as many buffs as you can and maintain that set of diseases as long as you can. As for the second part, and this could be the exhaustion talking, but I am not exactly sure what you are asking.

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Old 11/28/12, 10:07 AM   #39
 MagdalenaDK
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Worgen Death Knight
 
Whisperwind
Originally Posted by Khazim View Post
Also, which is the best way to use on use trinkets? I currently use them when summoning Gary and Unholy Frenzy to maximize their effects, but I have read somewhere that it would be worth it to macro it with dark transformation because the ghoul in its buffed state has become quite powerful. Which one is stronger now?
The best way to use on use trinkets is to maximise uptime.

This means you want to be using them as soon as they come off cooldown unless there's a special situation such as downtime on the boss (i.e. transition or "can't be attacked" phase) or Haste trinkets being used during Bloodlust/Heroism (this is due to the assumption that Heroism alone will be enough to GCD cap you).

If you can get trinkets to line up with cooldowns, great: Use them in conjunction since lining up CDs is usually good for us. But don't start delaying trinket usage unless there's a significant burn phase or DPS buff you're about to gain very shortly.


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Old 12/02/12, 6:11 AM   #40
Damyou
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Orc Death Knight
 
Kilrogg (EU)
Does the rolling AP updating of summons extend to army of Timmy now too or is that still a snapshot as well as diseases?

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Old 12/02/12, 8:28 AM   #41
 MagdalenaDK
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Whisperwind
Originally Posted by Damyou View Post
Does the rolling AP updating of summons extend to army of Timmy now too or is that still a snapshot as well as diseases?
Army of the Dead now also dynamically updates in a fashion similar to the ghoul.


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Old 12/03/12, 8:42 AM   #42
lichdawg
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Undead Death Knight
 
Archimonde (EU)
I have been following the DK forums discussions since they were created and I never saw a dedicated UI section specific to death knight. I found this a bit disconcerting considering the complexity of the class and having to monitor so many ressources. I feel that a well layed out UI plays a good part in helping achieve a better raid performance.

Can any of you send me a screenshot of his/her ui. Alternatively could any of the "senior" posters consider if adding a dedicated DK UI/mod sections could be beneficial tot he community?

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Old 12/03/12, 10:54 AM   #43
Damyou
Glass Joe
 
Orc Death Knight
 
Kilrogg (EU)
There are recommendations on some of the individual spec threads but if you want to see an example mine is relatively minimal. The main DK related addons I use are DDR for runes and diseases, blood shield tracker, vengeance and TMW and NTK for procs and CD's.
http://ragequit-kilrogg.enjin.com/ga...613#pid=936529
If you have any questions pm me.

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Old 12/05/12, 6:45 AM   #44
Orusthar
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Tauren Shaman
 
Kilrogg (EU)
Hello all. I would like to ask you about DS on Blood DKs. Does it still heals you if it doesnt land? Or did they fixed it , so I would need hit/expertise cap?

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Old 12/06/12, 6:28 AM   #45
Damyou
Glass Joe
 
Orc Death Knight
 
Kilrogg (EU)
It still heals. Have a read of the blood DK thread for a full explanation.

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