Some great ideas on trade skills. I have recently leveled Blacksmith to 375 and it was huge pain to do so but 350 and even 360 are not that bad. Problem becomes when I decided to level JC/BS combo. That is insane amount of mats required. But I may just level BS/Mining from ore like someone has suggested.
I have a question. If you cannot find Blade of Misfortune on your server, how long do you expect you original DK weapon to carry you?
As a side note: I have crafted 2 of the following(only because I will be going into this with dual-boxing of unholly DKs): FelIron plate set, Admantite set, Adamantite Cleaver to tie me over, 2 Green Alexandrite rings of Soldier/Beast, 2 Felsteel rings. are these enough to fill in the gap in gear as I level?
I believe the boar kill quest in hellfire had a better weapon than the dk one. Other than that I believe not until late terrokar group quest to kill the undead dragon, though that might only be a case of me wanting a sword since it was a human dk. The amount of time you spend 60-68 is so low that I think it is a waste to get too much gear and be concerned about the gap, you should be out of outlands in less than 2 days /played.
Some great ideas on trade skills. I have recently leveled Blacksmith to 375 and it was huge pain to do so but 350 and even 360 are not that bad. It became a problem when I decided to level JC/BS combo. That is insane amount of mats required. But I may just level BS/Mining from ore like someone has suggested.
I have a question. If you cannot find Blade of Misfortune on your server, how long do you expect you original DK weapon to carry you?
As a side note: I have crafted 2 of the following(only because I will be going into this with dual-boxing of unholly DKs): FelIron plate set, Admantite set, Adamantite Cleaver to tie me over, 2 Green Alexandrite rings of Soldier/Beast, 2 Felsteel rings. are these enough to fill in the gap in gear as I level?
You can get an upgrade in Hellfire for your starting weapon, it's an axe I believe.
That aside, I have stockpiled a load of flasks for when I hit 65. For some Elixirs, I just will be using my Agility Elixirs I have left from TBC raiding, which is about 40 of them (should cover me for the 58-65 bit I'm hoping). I also have a lot of strength food (and some hit food in case I decide to go hit some stuff that's a few levels higher than me) and a lot of sharpening stones. Sharpening stones are great, especially since they last through death. Also a huge amount of healthpotions. Healthpotions not only save your arse when you over pull, you can chug them between pulls instead of bandaging as well (I'm not sure if I'll level my FA straight away, although a recent change makes your start with Heavy Runecloth and 290/300 FA, so I guess it might be worth it. I do have the cloth, I suppose.)
Yeah, my testing on beta showed this. I currently have over 20 stacks of mithril and 5 stacks of Truesilver just for this eventuality, as my initial test on beta showed these were the slowdown points. Thorium is another issue, getting that last 289-290 point requires far more thorium than is worth it, so I'll most likely get to 289 and get 290-295 in Blasted Lands or Burning Steppes. Blasted Lands is "on the way", but Burning Steppes has a better chance of getting the skillups faster.
As for Lionheart Executioner being a waste of time, it probably is. I *should* just skip mining and blacksmithing entirely until I hit 80, but where's the fun in that? =) And lets be honest, the first DK to 80 won't win by an hour, he'll win by 6-10 hours at least.
On the subject of powering through towards 80, I'm wondering if it will even be worthwhile to spend money on a flying mount until I hit the level cap. You can get to 70 by what, Nagrand now? And then going straight to Northrend it'll be 67 before you can use your flyer. I see little point in bothering.
For most of you this might not be a factor at all, but for those of us leveling up on very limited wealth, it's a serious consideration.
As for Lionheart Executioner being a waste of time, it probably is. I *should* just skip mining and blacksmithing entirely until I hit 80, but where's the fun in that? =) And lets be honest, the first DK to 80 won't win by an hour, he'll win by 6-10 hours at least.
Considering it only takes 5-6 days /played 55-80 with solo questing I think there will be plenty of servers with real races on their hands, some with lame instance power leveling cheaters, and others that don't have any for over a week and a half.
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On the subject of powering through towards 80, I'm wondering if it will even be worthwhile to spend money on a flying mount until I hit the level cap. You can get to 70 by what, Nagrand now? And then going straight to Northrend it'll be 67 before you can use your flyer. I see little point in bothering.
For most of you this might not be a factor at all, but for those of us leveling up on very limited wealth, it's a serious consideration.
You should hit 68 around the end of Nagrand when you go over to get your flier doesn't really matter, you could do it at 70 or you could do it at 77. I would recommend just having a mage port you to shatt or dalaran some point after 70 and just hearthing back to northrend when you get it. If you are broke you could wait till 77 I suppose.
If the northrend server is stable I would head there at 68. If like on beta outlands is good and northrend is a pile of shit, I would stay there till 70 and get the flying mount before leaving.
Last edited by Flamingcloud : 10/29/08 at 3:51 PM.
I *do* plan to level fast, but my only goal is to be 80 in time for the initial inevitable Heroic frenzy followed by the first 10 mans. That said, I would recommend picking up the flying skill asap (pref. when you're questing in Terokkar, Allerian Stronghold/Stonebreaker Hold, as you're pretty close to SMV then. Just take a quick detour and learn your skill, buy the mount when you DG at 70 or so I suppose, or even just DG at 77.
I *do* plan to level fast, but my only goal is to be 80 in time for the initial inevitable Heroic frenzy followed by the first 10 mans. That said, I would recommend picking up the flying skill asap (pref. when you're questing in Terokkar, Allerian Stronghold/Stonebreaker Hold, as you're pretty close to SMV then. Just take a quick detour and learn your skill, buy the mount when you DG at 70 or so I suppose, or even just DG at 77.
I guess I'm wondering how much use I'll get out of it when I'll be spending so much time in places I can't use the mount until 77. It's an awfully big convenience when going back to Outland, that's for certain. On the other hand, that money could also bankroll investments in the AH. I'd rather be able to afford an epic at 77 than burn extra cash on a regular mount at 70 when I won't be using it.
I *do* plan to level fast, but my only goal is to be 80 in time for the initial inevitable Heroic frenzy followed by the first 10 mans. That said, I would recommend picking up the flying skill asap (pref. when you're questing in Terokkar, Allerian Stronghold/Stonebreaker Hold, as you're pretty close to SMV then. Just take a quick detour and learn your skill, buy the mount when you DG at 70 or so I suppose, or even just DG at 77.
You can buy every level of flight skill at the flight deck in Dalaran. There is no need to go to SMV at any point.
Formally Xyrm/Zurm, the Ret Pally. Now playing my rogue, Zyrm, more casually with RL friends.
I guess I'm wondering how much use I'll get out of it when I'll be spending so much time in places I can't use the mount until 77. It's an awfully big convenience when going back to Outland, that's for certain. On the other hand, that money could also bankroll investments in the AH. I'd rather be able to afford an epic at 77 than burn extra cash on a regular mount at 70 when I won't be using it.
Meh, that epic mount is going to speed up your levelling so incredibly much once you hit 77. I wouldn't underestimate it.
Edit: To the above, awesome! I didn't know that, so that's going to save me a trip to SMV :-).
Even better is that the trainer in Dalaran is Kirin Tor faction. Your probably friendly by the time you get to 77 meaning you even get a small discount on the skill.
I *do* plan to level fast, but my only goal is to be 80 in time for the initial inevitable Heroic frenzy followed by the first 10 mans. That said, I would recommend picking up the flying skill asap (pref. when you're questing in Terokkar, Allerian Stronghold/Stonebreaker Hold, as you're pretty close to SMV then. Just take a quick detour and learn your skill, buy the mount when you DG at 70 or so I suppose, or even just DG at 77.
Unless there are drastic changes between beta and live, there is NO requirement to go to SMV for flier skill. It's perfectly viable to wait until 77, then just pop by Dalaran, wherever, to snag skill/epic skill(if you have the cash)/cold weather and then DG, grab your vanity mount, and have done. From start-77 I probably made about 3k gold just by vendoring stuff/quest cash, with no interaction with a server economy, so you should be more than able to do this even if you're fairly poor by BC standards. (As I am, actually.)
Until 65 if you have good friends who will help you do ring of blood and get the axe. 67 if you have to go solo and get the Halaa sword.
I was thinking doing exactly that for weapons. I am going to blackmail friends into helping me with ring of blood as soon as I can pick it up. One DK is going to be Tauren other Bloodelf so weapons do not matter.
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I have 24k gold so it's not really an issue for me
I think of it this way. It takes 10 minutes to go buy a regular epic flying mount, I just made 800 gold in 10 minutes. There is no way anyone will be using an ugly dk mount when we have awesome drakes and proto-dragons to get. Inflation is not that bad in the expansion that you should be just throwing 800 gold around, unless you just really really like the look of the dk mount.
I think of it this way. It takes 10 minutes to go buy a regular epic flying mount, I just made 800 gold in 10 minutes. There is no way anyone will be using an ugly dk mount when we have awesome drakes and proto-dragons to get. Inflation is not that bad in the expansion that you should be just throwing 800 gold around, unless you just really really like the look of the dk mount.
I happen to be a fan of the death chicken, and don't plan to replace it until I get the Plagued Proto-Drake from the 10 man Tier1 raiding achievement. ~_~
Formally Xyrm/Zurm, the Ret Pally. Now playing my rogue, Zyrm, more casually with RL friends.
I happen to be a fan of the death chicken, and don't plan to replace it until I get the Plagued Proto-Drake from the 10 man Tier1 raiding achievement. ~_~
I think I will be replacing whatever mount I have with either the gold drake from heroic strat, the red drake from exalted wyrmrest or the hardmode sartharion drake. Additionally there are some rarer drop mounts like Reins of the Blue Proto-Drake, Reins of the Time-Lost Proto-Drake, and I am not sure on the drop rate of Reins of the Blue Drake.
I think I will be replacing whatever mount I have with either the gold drake from heroic strat, the red drake from exalted wyrmrest or the hardmode sartharion drake. Additionally there are some rarer drop mounts like Reins of the Blue Proto-Drake, Reins of the Time-Lost Proto-Drake, and I am not sure on the drop rate of Reins of the Blue Drake.
Dragons like the taste of chickens.
Orcs look particularly terrible on traditional drakes, that's my gripe.
Anyway, on to more productive topics... I was wondering if anyone still shared my view about Gargoyle not being an effective use of RP in a raiding environment for a deep unholy DK (specced something like 17/0/54). My major complaint is that there is no accurate way to model that damage... we know how much the bolts hit for, but the Gargoyle doesn't spam it... it randomly melees (for pathetic damage) or just sits there in the air.
Thoughts?
Formally Xyrm/Zurm, the Ret Pally. Now playing my rogue, Zyrm, more casually with RL friends.
I like the Death Chicken as well ~.~. I've spent my time waiting for the expansion with farming gold so I've got 130k waiting to be spent. I'm sure I can live without the extra 800g. :P
Not to mention I already bought all of the stuff I'll need before the escalation of prices we're seeing right now.
By the way, on the topic of levelling; what do you guys reckon: stay Outland to 70 (which is my bet) or go Northrend at 68 (I tried this one, granted with worse gear than I'll have on live due to enchants and elixirs, etc (I'll be making this DK on a almost seperate account, so can even use my main to power through some elite quests))
I'll have my 70s in Northrend so I plan to check the lag then go at 68 if its ok. The thing is I remember some of the Outland quests giving 20,000xp so even if it is laggy it might be worth it.
Anyway, on to more productive topics... I was wondering if anyone still shared my view about Gargoyle not being an effective use of RP in a raiding environment for a deep unholy DK (specced something like 17/0/54). My major complaint is that there is no accurate way to model that damage... we know how much the bolts hit for, but the Gargoyle doesn't spam it... it randomly melees (for pathetic damage) or just sits there in the air.
Thoughts?
I've never seen the gargoyle melee or fail to cast a bolt on time. My Recount hasn't, either.
I like the Death Chicken as well ~.~. I've spent my time waiting for the expansion with farming gold so I've got 130k waiting to be spent. I'm sure I can live without the extra 800g. :P
Not to mention I already bought all of the stuff I'll need before the escalation of prices we're seeing right now.
By the way, on the topic of levelling; what do you guys reckon: stay Outland to 70 (which is my bet) or go Northrend at 68 (I tried this one, granted with worse gear than I'll have on live due to enchants and elixirs, etc (I'll be making this DK on a almost seperate account, so can even use my main to power through some elite quests))
Like I said, my vote's on stay until 70.
Considering that my latest RaF character went to 70 before finishing all quests in Nagrand. I am staying in Outland to 70 letting people thin out in Northrend starting zones before I go there.
Last night was pessimistic skydive in a foolish narcotic shell
I like the Death Chicken as well ~.~. I've spent my time waiting for the expansion with farming gold so I've got 130k waiting to be spent. I'm sure I can live without the extra 800g. :P
Not to mention I already bought all of the stuff I'll need before the escalation of prices we're seeing right now.
By the way, on the topic of levelling; what do you guys reckon: stay Outland to 70 (which is my bet) or go Northrend at 68 (I tried this one, granted with worse gear than I'll have on live due to enchants and elixirs, etc (I'll be making this DK on a almost seperate account, so can even use my main to power through some elite quests))
Like I said, my vote's on stay until 70.
Honestly, I went Northrend @ 68, partly because I simply couldn't stand more Outland AGAIN, and partly because everything is so much better. The drops, quest XP, kill XP, all massively better than outland. Enchants, etc just don't matter, you punch through everything like it's paper, you'll have little/no downtime if you're Blood/Unholy, and I think I pretty much soloed (as Blood) every group quest up until the middle of Dragonblight when I ran into a 5-man Frostwyrm. Frost Presence + Sta/tank gear + Bloodworms/Death Strike = win.
In terms of speed, I believe I went 68-70 in one play session of about 5-7 hours tops, solely in Borean.
10/29/08, 3:36 PM
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