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Old 05/03/09, 1:07 PM   #1501
AmeroGER
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Originally Posted by Taidaisher View Post
I would argue that BP is better BECUASE of IUP. Your runes cooldown faster in UP sure, but in BP you get the dps/heal increase as well as the 15% haste increase.
"While in Blood Presence or Frost Presence, you retain 8/15% increased movement speed from Unholy Presence, and your runes finish their cooldowns 5/10% faster in Unholy Presence."

Where do you get the haste increased in Blood?

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Old 05/03/09, 1:14 PM   #1502
Ashur25
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Originally Posted by AmeroGER View Post
"While in Blood Presence or Frost Presence, you retain 8/15% increased movement speed from Unholy Presence, and your runes finish their cooldowns 5/10% faster in Unholy Presence."

Where do you get the haste increased in Blood?
I think he meant the runspeed increase

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Old 05/03/09, 1:23 PM   #1503
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Ignore/delete please, was already explained above.

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Old 05/03/09, 3:57 PM   #1504
Epic.Ara
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one little question:
For Blood-Spec (44/0/27), when AOEing, at what number of mobs becomes Blood Boil better than Heart Strike?

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Old 05/03/09, 6:39 PM   #1505
Sirenfal
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Cho'gall
For Frost:

190 AP WG Trinket or Mirror of Truth, which is better for DPS?

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Old 05/04/09, 12:00 AM   #1506
 frmorrison
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Originally Posted by Sirenfal View Post
For Frost:

190 AP WG Trinket or Mirror of Truth, which is better for DPS?
Rawr or another sim tool can answer this question easily, but Mirror is better. Note Mirror is about 84 crit and 150ish AP, so 84 crit is better than 40 AP.

The WG trinket is very useful on Yogg-Saron though.

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Old 05/04/09, 2:30 AM   #1507
f1reburn
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When offtanking, is it better to stand in front of the mob with the maintank (to get your rune strike powered by some potential cleaves for extra threat), or behind the mob?

When AOE tanking for a long consecutive period, like Thorim's arena, are rotations like DnD-IT-PS-Pest then TAB-HS/DS/Pest/BloodBoil intended to be looped, so that you D&D again to start a new rotation after the final Bloodboil?

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Old 05/04/09, 3:12 AM   #1508
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Personally, I prefer to stand in the front, right on top of the main tank. That way, when I taunt off of him, the boss won't swing around wildly and screw up our positioning. Getting extra RS's doesn't matter, as you will immediately assume the MT's threat once you taunt.

I find it very difficult to ever use a rotation when tanking, or even while dpsing. You should, as a rule, always use whatever tool will keep the mobs off the other players and keep you alive. Generally, this means using DnD on every cooldown, unless there are only two mobs, in which case HS is a better choice. you always want to have diseases ticking on everyone, so if they're about to go off, re-pest, and so forth.

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Old 05/04/09, 6:08 AM   #1509
Nihenna
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Question about expertise's value for Unholy.
At the moment I run around with wrathstone and Mark of Norgannon (to get expertise capped), anyways, I got an upgrade some days ago (which I can't remember what part, just that it got expertise.) which brought me to 30 expertise, which is too much.

Today I got the Nobles Deck trinket so I have a dilemma:
Do I want to replace the wrathstone or the Mark of Norgannon? If I replace the mark I suddenly am at 22 expertise, which is below the cap, but I still want to know if it's a dps loss to replace the 4 expertise below cap with a nearly 200 ap increase from the nobles deck or should I just wait until I get more expertise from somewhere (like t8 chest.) and replace the wrathstone with the greatness trinket meanwhile?

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Old 05/04/09, 12:45 PM   #1510
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Maybe I'm missing something obvious here, but I'm trying to find a way, as Blood, to track the uptime of my ghoul and DRW. Currently I just wait for the scrolling damage to stop for my pets to know it's done, but a more accurate way to track it would be great. Any ideas?

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Old 05/04/09, 12:55 PM   #1511
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You can use NeedToKnow : WoWInterface Downloads : Buff/Debuff/Spell Mods for DRW, don't know if it will work for the ghoul.

update if you use Deadly Boss Mods you can set a timer when you use the ghoul by using a macros something like this
#showtooltip Raise Dead
/dbm timer 01:00 Ghoul 
/cast Raise Dead

Last edited by blitzseed : 05/04/09 at 1:02 PM.

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Old 05/04/09, 1:32 PM   #1512
Krom[Fenris]
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Hmm, NTK works for DRW? I didn't think it had a buff that could be tracked. As for the DBM macro, that's fine, but it doesn't account for the ghoul getting killed. It may be there isn't a mod that does this, which is fine, just curious.

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Old 05/04/09, 2:17 PM   #1513
blitzseed
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Yep DRW has a buff see spell Dancing Rune Weapon - Spell - World of Warcraft, as for ghoul maybe Class timer will work. Note I have not used or tried don’t know if it will see the ghoul.

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Old 05/04/09, 8:32 PM   #1514
RumNCoke
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Trinket question

Quick question about trinkets... My current trinkets are [Meteorite Whetstone] and [Darkmoon Card: Greatness]

Would it be worth replacing the whetstone with [Mirror of Truth] ? I have enough emblems to get it... or I could hold onto them for something later.

I've read a darkmoon/mirror combo will not proc together... Does that mean they never at the same time but can at different times or one will never work if you have both equipped?

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Old 05/05/09, 6:15 AM   #1515
Consider
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Mirror of Truth is superior to Meteorite Whetstone for any spec.

Mirror of Truth and Darkmoon Card: Greatness can proc at the same time, can overlap with neither buff overriding the other, and they do both have separate ICDs. In no way does one limit the effectiveness of the other.

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