Death Knight: Simple Questions/Simple Answers - Page 114

crazy dodo · 06/02/09, 4:58 PM

Originally Posted by gier

As a Unholy-DK, specced 5/5 Desecration (a snare effect):

Which rune besides Scourge Strike and Ghoul is the most effective for max dmg with T7,5 and T8,5/Ulduar-Gear?
- Blood Strike (20% more damage with Blood Strike to snared targets)
- Unholy Blight (10 Sek more Unholy Blight, saves 1 GCD per Minute)
- Dark Death (15% more Deathcoil DMG)
- Death and Decay (20% more D&D-DMG)

my choice is Dark Death hands down
reasons being, BS is not utilized enough do deserve a buff, you dont really need more GCDs in Unholy as you're already idling in 1 or 2 per rotation anyway so UB is out of the way as well. Death and Decay.. well unless you think AOE is more important that single target dps, it has no part in your rotation and 20% more damage just means more threat so definitely a no.

Lilixer · 06/03/09, 12:18 AM

Originally Posted by crazy dodo

my choice is Dark Death hands down
reasons being, BS is not utilized enough do deserve a buff, you dont really need more GCDs in Unholy as you're already idling in 1 or 2 per rotation anyway so UB is out of the way as well. Death and Decay.. well unless you think AOE is more important that single target dps, it has no part in your rotation and 20% more damage just means more threat so definitely a no.

Would agree with this, I think there is a stage though where UB will become the preferred glyph.

However the fact that Death Coil has such big multipliers, i even tend to use [Sigil of the Vengeful Heart] when playing Unholy, seeing 10k+ Death Coil crits are lots of fun

Flippers · 06/03/09, 2:10 AM

How good or bad is DW Unholy right now? Is it able to compete with other 2H specs or even surpass its dps? Or is it nothing but a gimped spec now?

I personally haven't tried DW at all and even with BoH, I am willing to try it out IF if it still effective

Bosch · 06/03/09, 2:16 AM

Assuming cookie cutter 51 blood spec, will I ever need to use Blood Tap? I don't quite understand what it does

Esfernum · 06/03/09, 3:48 AM

You hit Blood Strike once, Bloodrune on CD. Then you Blood tap, which make this blood rune to reset to Death rune and switch the other blood rune to death rune as well. It will leave you with 2 death rune ready to use.

AmeroGER · 06/03/09, 9:59 AM

Originally Posted by Esfernum

You hit Blood Strike once, Bloodrune on CD. Then you Blood tap, which make this blood rune to reset to Death rune and switch the other blood rune to death rune as well. It will leave you with 2 death rune ready to use.

However if you do that to cast a SS, one of the two Blood Runes will refresh as a Death Rune because of BT. You can't cast another SS from 1 BR, 1 DR, so you'll be stuck on casting two BS's. But by the time those two refresh again BT will have elapsed and the DR from before will go back to being a BR, leaving you with 1 DR, 1 BR again. The only ways out of this are to either accept casting 2 BS's for 2 rotations or to wait before casting the first set of BS's or to cancel BT manually.

crazy dodo · 06/03/09, 1:11 PM

i should probably know this ...
Spellpower is calculated based on AP not Strenght correct?
what's the SP gain for 1 AP (before any talent bonuses are applied)?

♦ Darkside · 06/03/09, 1:14 PM

Originally Posted by crazy dodo

i should probably know this ...
Spellpower is calculated based on AP not Strenght correct?
what's the SP gain for 1 AP (before any talent bonuses are applied)?

Spellpower is not calculated from anything, all DK abilities use Attack Power to determine their final damage value. Various coefficients for different abilities can be found in the Theorycrafting Think Tank.

Growler · 06/03/09, 4:34 PM

Picture a non ideal 25 man makeup with only 1 DK (DPS most of the instance 10 & 25 Uld), no shammies, majority of the time no feral and very meele heavy (wars & pallies mainly). What spec would benefit the raid more?

We went from 4 DK, 2 unholy, 1 blood, 1 frost, now to just myslef being frost, no longer are all the bases covered.

Lollersk8er · 06/03/09, 7:07 PM

Is the FS glyph still bugged?

♦ Darkside · 06/03/09, 7:09 PM

I believe they fixed all the issues with RP/Rage/Energy reductions last night with server restarts (I'm not sure if this happened with EU servers).

Originally Posted by Growler

Picture a non ideal 25 man makeup with only 1 DK (DPS most of the instance 10 & 25 Uld), no shammies, majority of the time no feral and very meele heavy (wars & pallies mainly). What spec would benefit the raid more?

We went from 4 DK, 2 unholy, 1 blood, 1 frost, now to just myslef being frost, no longer are all the bases covered.

If you have noone covering the +13% magic damage debuff, go Unholy.
If you have no hunter proving +10% AP, go Blood.
If both of those are covered, go Frost.

Ellendiel · 06/03/09, 9:04 PM

I know the question was asked briefly before, but a little more involved question:

Do you think the 2350 axe (+5 expertise for my orc) is better than Aesir's, despite loss in crit/arp, and ap instead of str? I'm blood, btw.

Higher topend, but less desirable stats, so I'm not exactly sure.

Esfernum · 06/04/09, 4:16 AM

Originally Posted by AmeroGER

However if you do that to cast a SS, one of the two Blood Runes will refresh as a Death Rune because of BT. You can't cast another SS from 1 BR, 1 DR, so you'll be stuck on casting two BS's. But by the time those two refresh again BT will have elapsed and the DR from before will go back to being a BR, leaving you with 1 DR, 1 BR again. The only ways out of this are to either accept casting 2 BS's for 2 rotations or to wait before casting the first set of BS's or to cancel BT manually.

No, you usually use this trick after that the frost and unholy runes are on cooldown, after double SS or DS or OB. Both of your Blood runes will be reset to Death runes ready to use. It is then time to use your RP dump and your next couple of runes are ready to use (should be bbFFUU). Try it and love it.
Just to be noticed, you can use it as well with an Unholy rune for the Ghoul Frenzy.

AmeroGER · 06/04/09, 6:09 AM

Originally Posted by Esfernum

No, you usually use this trick after that the frost and unholy runes are on cooldown, after double SS or DS or OB. Both of your Blood runes will be reset to Death runes ready to use. It is then time to use your RP dump and your next couple of runes are ready to use (should be bbFFUU). Try it and love it.
Just to be noticed, you can use it as well with an Unholy rune for the Ghoul Frenzy.

I did try it and the next upcoming runes weren't BBFFUU but rather BDFFUU. Fieh in the Unholy Thread however posted a simple solution to this. Create the macro

#showtooltip
/cast Blood Tap
/cancelaura Blood Tap

replace Blood Tap in your bar with this macro and then you can simply repress Blood Tap to cancel the effect. (Although it looks that way BT won't be cast and cancelled if you only press the macro once.)

Dashihawk · 06/04/09, 8:14 AM

so quick question with a simple answer.

Best DPS spec with heroic/naxx 10 gear? and best DPS spec with 25 naxx/ Ulduar gear?
Also blood/cold/unholy?

I am looking to make a DK tank/dps and wanted some quick questions answerd. Thanks