since searching for Death Coil didn't answer and DC is too broad, for Blood, I'm trying to follow the rotation (Which is anything but neat or tight thanks to dodges) and I'm hitting RP cap nonstop. Should I just ignore it and only DC when I have a free GCD, or, like Unholy, stop the rotation for a second to get uncapped?

Also does someone have the link to the math proving that blood is better than unholy (presences I mean) for the cookie cutter blood dps spec? I've been expirementing with Unholy, and thanks to better recovery from dodges, actually have better dps (testing on dummies, I haven't actually tried it on bosses), so I'd like to see the WWS etc actually proving it if someone knows where I can find it (glanced through blood thread but its all newer discussion). And on a related note, if Blood > Unholy, how certain are we on Expertise weights? I ask because I'm getting righteously fucked up in the rotation when I get a dodge and and in Blood presence the whole thing starts to get slightly off kilter, not the ezmoad that other people talk about.

In addition, what is the armor pen one should have before attempting to dps as Blood? I know Blood values Apn very highly, is 6% (without talent) enough?
Not asking for hand holding (but if someone wanted to armory me and point out any obvious mistakes in a PM I would'nt complain), I would just like to see the actual math proving some of these presences and weights, and an explanation of certain mechanics.

You almost had it. Just put a "!" before Rune strike like "/cast !Rune Strike".

So I now have FotFF, Grim Toll, and the Greatness card. I'm running the 0/17/54 build with 379 hit rating (11.56%) so I was wondering which of the trinkets I should drop for the greatness card?

Hey guys - sorry to just bump in like this, and this might be a really stupid question, but it's my first post :P

But I'm curious about the Stat Weighting for Unholy,
where can I find what you factored into the equations?

My main question would be, how come haste became so much better than crit?
In my mind haste only affects;

Ghoul
Gargoyle
Auto-attack
Necrosis and BCB

and Crit affects alot more of our skills.

I have a mix of 10 and 25 Ulduar tanking gear and do a lot of main and offtanking for my guild.
But I've never been a serious main tank before so I'm not a super good number cruncher or anything.

If I wanted to be as effective as possible as a Blood DK tank would I use [Abaddon] from Yogg or my [Furious Gladiator's Greatsword]?
Abaddon would put me at the hit cap. However the pvp sword is higher dps, although slower.

Remember a weapons PRIMARY job is to give you threat. I would use the furious gladiator sword plus it means if you were a little below the defense cap it wouldn't matter.

I trust your wisdom here, as I realize how great the T7 bonus is. However, it sucks to be getting new ulduar gear and be unable to use it. Is there a AEP value that effectively summarizes how much the t7 bonus contributes? As in, after a certain amount of stats gained does the bonus become obsolete, or is it simply waiting until the t8 bonus replaces the t7 one.

I do not think that it resets the swing timer. Furthermore, you should only be using it if all your runes are on cooldown and if you have no RP available for any other abilities or if the buff is about fall off.

With the craptastic RP gain from our T8 I find that the HoW 10 RP is what is needed to just squeeze in 1 more DC. Not sure if it is a DPS increase or not though =/ The reason why I say it might not be is because it does cause a GCD which realistically slows down a fresh new UF rune that you can SS. Might slow down by about .5 GCD cause the rune isn't up when you use HoW but it would be up after about half your GCD is done. I don't know maybe I'm overthinking it but I'd rather like to see if it is a definitive DPS increase or should I just keep pressing SS as much as possible instead and only use it whenever my shamans are too lazy to redrop their freaking totems!

When you have a spare GCD there is no reason not to use HoW. And if one of your runes is cooling down or has cooled down and another is about to use it, remember that using a GCD when a rune coolsdown already counts towards the 10 seconds, making the rune only take 8.5 seconds to be restored.

I read in Suno's tanking thread that IBF glyph is ot listed, but "Feel free to substitute it in as you see fit."
As you know, the glyph provides at least 30% damage reduction regardless of you defense rating. I could not find the numbers I'm looking for in the thread, and I'm not good with theorycrafting math. My question is, how much defense rating do you need in order for IBF to reduce 30% of your damage if you do not have the glyph?