Death Knight: Simple Questions/Simple Answers - Page 17

Xelopheris · 11/21/08, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by Calgar

Question about the Blood Strike Glyph.

Blood Strike

1. Does it work on raid bosses if say, frost bolt debuff, or whatever other snare is up? I ask since most bosses aren't affected by snares and was wondering if this would work.

2. Does it work with heart strike? Since heart and blood strike are interchange-able in many places I'm not certain.

As far as #1, I can't think of any snare debuffs that bosses are affected by.

#2, yes, it definitely works for Heart Strike.

The glyph is good for Unholy mainly, with frost as a slight second. Descration will mean anything you're dpsing that isn't snare immune is snared for 60% of the time (and all the time that you are bloodstriking). With frost, depending on whether you take the appropriate talents to apply a snare to Frost Fever, it's useful.

-Abakus- · 11/21/08, 1:10 PM

Originally Posted by Calgar

Question about the Blood Strike Glyph.

Blood Strike

1. Does it work on raid bosses if say, frost bolt debuff, or whatever other snare is up? I ask since most bosses aren't affected by snares and was wondering if this would work.

2. Does it work with heart strike? Since heart and blood strike are interchange-able in many places I'm not certain.

this might be akin to mage's Torment The Weak, which only works off of slow.

Enthralled · 11/21/08, 4:47 PM

Does Shadow of Death result in a threat wipe? I assume the answer is yes but I was wondering if anyone has tested this.

Poltergeist · 11/21/08, 4:56 PM

Well i nearly touched the 80 with my dk. Leveld as Unholy. I read the dps Compendium and as got it right haste isn't that good for a DPS DK. But what is about a Tank DK I mean Frost with imp icy talons gives you more haste. Is that good or is it just nice to have and shouldn't be skilled?

slant · 11/21/08, 5:06 PM

You're asking if 4% haste is worth 1 talent point. That depends on the portion of your overall DPS done by autoattacks and (when tanking or solo) rune strike. If that number improves by 4%, is it greater than 1% of your overall DPS? If so, it's a good talent. Once you're invested in icy talons, it seems like imp. icy talons is an obvious choice for raid buffs.

Poltergeist · 11/21/08, 5:14 PM

So Haste is with a frost spec not that useless.

slant · 11/21/08, 5:25 PM

Haste isn't useless for any DK spec. It's just not as valuable per point of item budget as other stats, like strength, hit (until cap), crit, etc. 20% is a ton of haste.

Stoical · 11/21/08, 8:04 PM

Originally Posted by Enthralled

Does Shadow of Death result in a threat wipe? I assume the answer is yes but I was wondering if anyone has tested this.

Yes. Died while tanking, boss immediately proceeded to run around gibbing everyone else as I chased him around in ghoul form helping finish him off.

Arkasi · 11/21/08, 8:20 PM

Originally Posted by LockApologist

Sorry, I guess I wasn't clear. I understand that my dodge/parry triggers rune strike. I understand that Necro/BCB/KM are triggered from my auto attacks hitting.

My question is, since Runestrike is an on next melee attack, will it proc the 'on auto attack' talents listed above? So, if I use Rune strike, will it also apply BCB/Necro/KM? i.e. Heroic strike proc'ing old Wind fury vs MS not proc'ing old Wind fury

No rune strike does not proc BCB/Necro/KM.

Keline · 11/22/08, 7:18 AM

Figured it out myself... and chad beat me to it too

chadbrochill · 11/22/08, 7:52 AM

Originally Posted by Keline

Does anyone else experience a really long delay on Rune Strike?

That is because it is an On-Next-Hit attack, meaning it will do the damage when your next auto attack happens.

Noraj · 11/22/08, 4:03 PM

Originally Posted by chadbrochill

That is because it is an On-Next-Hit attack, meaning it will do the damage when your next auto attack happens.

This also means that at higher levels of avoidance when using two-handed weapons, Rune Strike can effectively replace ALL of your autoattacks, especially if you have Blessing of Sanctuary generating additional runic power for you.

This is an important thing to consider when speccing into the Unholy tree especially, as it practically makes Necrosis and Blood Caked Blades useless since they simply won't have any attacks to proc from.

Broseph · 11/22/08, 6:25 PM

Originally Posted by Noraj

This is an important thing to consider when speccing into the Unholy tree especially, as it practically makes Necrosis and Blood Caked Blades useless since they simply won't have any attacks to proc from.

Not that you're incorrect, but might I suggest we test out the assumption that Rune Strike doesn't proc Necrosis. There is at least one post suggesting otherwise:

DK Tanking Discussion

Needless to say, if Rune Strike does count as an autoattack w/r/t Necrosis, Necrosis would jump to the top of any Unholy tank's must-have list.

Spawren · 11/22/08, 6:26 PM

From what I've read Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft (15/37/19) is the best DW spec atm. I was just wondering if there is any room to get Unbreakable Armor, seeing how you only need one more point to get it. If there has been any updates on this spec, would appreciate it if someone could post it, Thanks

Twinbladez · 11/22/08, 10:35 PM

Sorry for the stupid question, but does lichbane's extra damage only apply to auto attacks (Im assuming this) or all attacks