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04/03/09, 3:16 PM
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#1326
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I find your lack of faith disturbing
Orc Death Knight
Mal'Ganis
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IBP increases healing received from ANY source by 10%. This means that you will be healed for 1.1*0.04 = 4.4% of all damage you do.
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<XI|> if your dog barks do you debate the philosophical reason behind him barking
<XI|> no
<XI|> you say shut up idiot
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04/03/09, 5:15 PM
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#1327
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Banned
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Using the Deathstrike glyph...how much RP is needed to get the full 25% damage benefit? 26 or 52 RP?
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04/03/09, 5:34 PM
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#1328
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Piston Honda
Human Death Knight
Kargath (EU)
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Originally Posted by Lushen
Using the Deathstrike glyph...how much RP is needed to get the full 25% damage benefit? 26 or 52 RP?
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25.
1% increase per 1 RP with a maximum of 25% = 25 RP
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04/03/09, 5:37 PM
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#1329
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Banned
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Originally Posted by Ashur25
25.
1% increase per 1 RP with a maximum of 25% = 25 RP
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You 100% sure? Not trying to be rude...I ask simply because the glyph says 2% per 2 rp...so Im not sure if that makes a difference or not.
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04/03/09, 5:54 PM
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#1330
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Piston Honda
Human Death Knight
Kargath (EU)
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Originally Posted by Lushen
You 100% sure? Not trying to be rude...I ask simply because the glyph says 2% per 2 rp...so Im not sure if that makes a difference or not.
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hmm, you're right, when i wrote it i remembered the false change that mmo champ wrote a few weeks ago and forgot that the change wasn't true
It's still 1% per 1 RP if you do the math, it's just 26 now to cap. Sorry for the confusion
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04/05/09, 1:40 PM
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#1331
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Von Kaiser
Undead Priest
Magtheridon (EU)
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For all classes today there is always a cookie-cutter build for any certain job. If that job is stationary single-target DPS, think Patchwerk, what aspect of the Death Knight should I read up about ?
Blood, Frost (Dual Wield) or Unholy.
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04/05/09, 1:59 PM
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#1332
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Piston Honda
Human Death Knight
Kargath (EU)
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Originally Posted by windcape
For all classes today there is always a cookie-cutter build for any certain job. If that job is stationary single-target DPS, think Patchwerk, what aspect of the Death Knight should I read up about ?
Blood, Frost (Dual Wield) or Unholy.
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Blood or Unholy once 3.1 hits
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04/05/09, 2:37 PM
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#1333
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Glass Joe
Draenei Shaman
Madmortem (EU)
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concerning DR on parry and dodge
I was thinking about an easy and fast way to determine whether to add more dodge- or parry-rating. As the caps for both are at 47% and 88% for parry and dodge respectively, is it correct or at least close to reality to use the following formula:
MyParry / ParryCap > MyDodge / DodgeCap => Get more dodge-rating
MyParry / ParryCap < MyDodge / DodgeCap => Get more parry-rating
In the first case I would be closer to the parry-cap (relatively speaking) than to the dodge-cap, so it would be better to get more dodge-rating. In the second case it's just the other way around, so I should get more parry-rating.
E.g. I am currently at about 23% dodge and 16% parry (according to my paperdoll). Therefore my formula would lead me to add more dodge-rating as
16% / 47% = 0.34 > 23% / 88% = 0.26
Last edited by Stelmaria : 04/05/09 at 3:01 PM.
Reason: adding an example
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04/06/09, 5:57 AM
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#1334
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King Hippo
Night Elf Druid
The Maelstrom (EU)
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Simple question:
I usually tank (as Frost) when on my DK. For yesterday's Malygos 6M, we needed a DK to grip so I specced DPS. It was damn clear that I need more practise as my DPS fluctuated like mad and wasn't exactly top notch. I'm not overly interested in becoming a DPS monster, but would like to make a worthwhile contribution if I do have to DPS for a change. As such, which Spec/Rotation is easiest to pull off consistently?
One point of note, I don't have the Heigan Sigil.
Last edited by Duilliath : 04/06/09 at 6:08 AM.
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An thenn tehy wuz al ded. Srsly. ( Exodus 1)
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04/06/09, 8:29 AM
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#1335
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Chaos reigns
Orc Death Knight
Anub'arak (EU)
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Originally Posted by Duilliath
Simple question:
I usually tank (as Frost) when on my DK. For yesterday's Malygos 6M, we needed a DK to grip so I specced DPS. It was damn clear that I need more practise as my DPS fluctuated like mad and wasn't exactly top notch. I'm not overly interested in becoming a DPS monster, but would like to make a worthwhile contribution if I do have to DPS for a change. As such, which Spec/Rotation is easiest to pull off consistently?
One point of note, I don't have the Heigan Sigil.
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It's hard to say "this spec is easier to pull off than that one", since a lot of it comes down to personal preference. So I'll just give you some pointers:
- Diseaseless Blood is probably at the moment the easiest one to do (no offense intended to the players who use it), because you only have to manage 2 cooldowns and be pretty much done with it
- Frost (Either UP-Icy-Touch or BP-Obliterate) deliver relatively good DPS even if you don't watch things like Killing Machine Procs, but only bloom to their full potential when you do that. And this requires some experience.
- Unholy is pretty self-sustaining, as well, you don't have to watch any specific procs. Just try to not let your pet die and wait for FC-procs or things like Greatness before you summon the Gargoyle.
- It very much depends on the weapon you have, before BoH you're probably best off with Unholy, if you have BoH probably Blood or 6xIT (due to lack of Heigan Sigil)
- All of these are 2H-specs. As of now, DW-specs are still vastly overpowered, so if you have at least reasonably decent 1H-weapons, that would probably be your best bet. Because even if you suck at it, your DPS will still be competitive (not to say what they'll be if you don't suck at it).
Originally Posted by Stelmaria
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Death Knight FAQ. Read this before posting! - Although this post hasn't been updated for a while, its section about avoidance is still up to date and it even links to posts that go more in-depth about this stuff.
Last edited by Amroo : 04/06/09 at 11:10 AM.
Reason: amazing how much a missing "if" can change the message of a sentence
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04/06/09, 9:48 AM
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#1336
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Piston Honda
Human Death Knight
Kargath (EU)
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Just to add a little bit to what Amroo said.
In 3.1 DW is pretty much dead, given the fact that 3.1 is probably only 1-2 weeks away speccing DW now might not be the best idea. Better stick to a 2H spec
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04/06/09, 12:59 PM
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#1337
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Banned
Draenei Death Knight
Norgannon (EU)
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is there any ranking for dps trinkts (DK specific) ?
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04/06/09, 1:11 PM
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#1338
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Piston Honda
Human Death Knight
Kargath (EU)
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Originally Posted by Bigwang
is there any ranking for dps trinkts (DK specific) ?
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I don't believe there is, much less for every spec out there.
But for every single spec Darkmoon Card is No.1, even with the Ulduar loot we know so far
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04/06/09, 1:18 PM
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#1339
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Banned
Draenei Death Knight
Norgannon (EU)
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Originally Posted by Ashur25
I don't believe there is, much less for every spec out there.
But for every single spec Darkmoon Card is No.1, even with the Ulduar loot we know so far
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yes, for the moment #1 is greatness, #2 is Sartharion, and third should be Bandit's Insignie I think (maybe 2 and 3 switched)
I am just interested if Loatheb's Shadow is superior to Extract of Necromantic Power
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04/06/09, 5:57 PM
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#1340
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Piston Honda
Human Death Knight
Azjol-Nerub (EU)
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Does the Archaron dummy have any built in debuffs?
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04/06/09, 6:04 PM
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#1341
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Von Kaiser
Night Elf Hunter
Stormscale
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Originally Posted by Ashur25
Just to add a little bit to what Amroo said.
In 3.1 DW is pretty much dead, given the fact that 3.1 is probably only 1-2 weeks away speccing DW now might not be the best idea. Better stick to a 2H spec
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Once I hit 80, I http://www.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Stormscale&n=Soulsdemise. I was working on gearing for both tank and dps duties. Reading through all these posts, I have given up the idea of (all sexual innuendos aside) going both ways. I haven't respecced yet because I have been waiting for 3.1 to drop and because I haven't really decided if I'm going to go 12/0/59 and 0/10/61. I have since then decided to go with the black ice build.
Should I (do I still need to) wait for 3.1 to drop or should I just go ahead and respec now so I can go about my DK dpsing business?
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04/06/09, 7:46 PM
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#1342
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Piston Honda
Troll Death Knight
Lightning's Blade
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Originally Posted by Ashur25
Just to add a little bit to what Amroo said.
In 3.1 DW is pretty much dead, given the fact that 3.1 is probably only 1-2 weeks away speccing DW now might not be the best idea. Better stick to a 2H spec
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I don't know if this statement is exactly true. We seem to be coming close to a solid DW DPS build (or a few) right here on EJ. It's just taking a bit of time but they are looking pretty good imo. But, I believe that if you don't have experience with DW/have a DW set already, it might just be best to go the 2H route.
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04/07/09, 7:17 AM
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#1343
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Von Kaiser
Draenei Warrior
Hellscream (EU)
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I've searched, but can't find a source (possibly because DRW is too short to search for).
How does Dancing Rune Weapon work from a threat perspective? I've seen conflicting remarks saying that it adds to your threat and that it has it's own threat.
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04/07/09, 7:19 AM
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#1344
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Piston Honda
Human Death Knight
Kargath (EU)
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Originally Posted by swelt
I've searched, but can't find a source (possibly because DRW is too short to search for).
How does Dancing Rune Weapon work from a threat perspective? I've seen conflicting remarks saying that it adds to your threat and that it has it's own threat.
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It has its own threat list
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04/07/09, 7:26 AM
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#1345
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Von Kaiser
Draenei Warrior
Hellscream (EU)
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Thank you, but are you able provide a link to the source/testing? As I mentioned, I've already seen conflicting one-liners.
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04/07/09, 7:35 AM
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#1346
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Piston Honda
Human Death Knight
Kargath (EU)
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Originally Posted by swelt
Thank you, but are you able provide a link to the source/testing? As I mentioned, I've already seen conflicting one-liners.
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I can't offer a definitive source, but i can assure you it's been like that since beta. It's also the reason why no one has even thought about a blood tank build with more than 50 points in blood, simply because aside from doing more dps (but not more threat) DRW doesn't do anything for a tank
Basically DRW works like any other guardian/pet aside Mirror Image
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04/07/09, 2:39 PM
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#1347
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Glass Joe
Human Death Knight
Mal'Ganis
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I just don't see how t7.5 4p +40rp per rotation > t8.5 4p 60% bonus damage on x2 BS, x4 SS.
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04/07/09, 9:19 PM
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#1348
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Don Flamenco
Draenei Death Knight
Laughing Skull
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Originally Posted by Darkmoone
I just don't see how t7.5 4p +40rp per rotation > t8.5 4p 60% bonus damage on x2 BS, x4 SS.
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This is because the set bonus is not 20% increased damage overall per disease, but rather 20% increased damage from the disease modifier. Come 3.1, each strike has a percent modifier based on the number of diseases you have on the target, as opposed to a flat number as it currently stands. That is what gets increased by 20%.
I.e; On the PTR, SS gets 11% increased damage per disease. You simply increase that by 20%, meaning with t8 4p, you get 13.2% increased damage per disease.
A decent bonus, sure, but not that amazing. Blizzard set the bar too high with tier 7, really.
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04/08/09, 4:34 AM
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#1349
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Von Kaiser
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Question:
When calculating Scourge Strike damage, How do I compare point investment of Bladed Armor with 2H weapon specialization. I'm wondering because of how to spend the 5 blood points in the 10/11/50 pvp spec. Do I got 3 Bladed/2 2H, or do I go 5 Bladed?
I'm unsure how to calculate the attack based on the weapon dmg and the current AP. Anyone have the answer or equation?
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04/08/09, 6:15 AM
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#1350
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Banned
Orc Death Knight
Karazhan (EU)
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I have a question about the upcoming HB glyph; as you know if you are HB glyphed your HB will put frost fever on your target. So i wonder if we will ever need to cast IT to get haste buff or not since HB causes frost fever?
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