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04/16/09, 7:25 PM
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#1401
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Glass Joe
Smashyouhard
Draenei Shaman
Gul'dan
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Spellpower
This was probably asked before but I can't find a clear answer, does + spellpower gear boost the spell damage output of all dk spell abilities?
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04/16/09, 7:39 PM
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#1402
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Von Kaiser
Human Death Knight
Ravenholdt
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Originally Posted by Smashyouhard
This was probably asked before but I can't find a clear answer, does + spellpower gear boost the spell damage output of all dk spell abilities?
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No.
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04/16/09, 9:19 PM
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#1403
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Glass Joe
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Does anyone have the math on IUP vs 3/5 necrosis and blood presence? Everywhere I look seems to be completely throwing IUP bonuses to UP to the side without any math, but it seems to me like it would be reasonably close. 15% haste from UP is roughly the same as 15% damage increase on auto attacks, and 8 sec rune cooldowns means 20% more of other DK abilities, due both to more runes available and more runic power generated. Am I simply missing something?
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04/17/09, 12:50 AM
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#1404
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unique snowflake
Blood Elf Paladin
Frostmourne
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Originally Posted by Hemfive
/snip
I pass lot of time reading and mumbling on all the spec posted in unholy/blood/frost/dw topics, but it is really hard to find an answer or the time to try everything... And like I sayd above the right answer is still not known.
Personally I envy the "esay-build" paladins can use to maximaze their damage. There is only one build and only one rotation to do the "damage dealer job" at the top, after that, you have only to consider your gear and your latency/attention/skill in game.
I hope one day there will be an answer for DKs too.
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The very aspect you dislike about this class is the same one that many of us love about it. I hope that there is never a clear answer to "which is the top dps spec?", simply because the theorycrafting / etc. is half (or more) the fun of this game. Variety is the spice of life.
And now a question: Is the Frost Fever from the Howling Blast glyph applied before or after the damage? (unfortunately the glyph has not appeared on our server last time I checked so I am unable to test this myself at this point)
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04/17/09, 2:12 AM
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#1405
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Von Kaiser
Gnome Death Knight
Dethecus
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What's the best min/max'd spec for single target boss dps in 3.1?
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04/17/09, 3:32 AM
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#1406
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Glass Joe
Draenei Death Knight
Stormrage
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I just got the glyph, but I'm pretty sure Frost Fever is applied after the damage based on some non-extensive damage testing on the dummy as well as the timing of when I get the Improved Icy Talons buff.
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Cast in the name of God, Ye not guilty ...
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04/17/09, 3:38 AM
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#1407
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Glass Joe
Orc Death Knight
Mal'Ganis
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I'm being told by some buddies doing test dummy pewpew that the damage is applied after howling blast
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04/17/09, 10:30 AM
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#1408
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Von Kaiser
Troll Warrior
Shattered Hand
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Originally Posted by nitetrain8
Does anyone have the math on IUP vs 3/5 necrosis and blood presence? Everywhere I look seems to be completely throwing IUP bonuses to UP to the side without any math, but it seems to me like it would be reasonably close. 15% haste from UP is roughly the same as 15% damage increase on auto attacks, and 8 sec rune cooldowns means 20% more of other DK abilities, due both to more runes available and more runic power generated. Am I simply missing something?
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Except blood is a 15% increase on EVERY ability, not just auto attacks. so 10% increase on 20% of your damage or 15% increase on 100% of your damage.
The 1 extra second one rune cooldowns still won't make up for it, except maybe in dual wield but I haven't been paying mind there.
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04/17/09, 2:21 PM
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#1409
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Banned
Night Elf Hunter
Demon Soul
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I'm kind of lost as to what spec would be the best for my current gear in 3.1.
I got 4/5 T7, Jawbone, and NO Sigil of Awareness.
I got all the crappy blue sigils and the Haunted Dreams one. Should I go Blood+ dark rider? Blood + wild buck? Blood + haunted dreams? Unholy + Arthritic ? Leaving Frost out of the equation for now since reports are showing it a bit behind, the IT sigil got nerfed rather hard and I don't have anything better to replace it.
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04/17/09, 5:49 PM
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#1410
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Piston Honda
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Can anyone tell me the amount of damage increase we are recieving from the Blood Gorged talent in the Blood tree. I am deciding on a pvp build and I want to know if the 10% armor pen from that talent is worth it (not including the 10% bonus if above 75% health). If not I am skipping it and getting the perma-ghoul from Unholy instead.
So basically I have to decide between the following talents:
54/0/17
Blood Gorged (Blood)
DRW (Blood)
or
45/0/26
Blood Caked Blade (Unholy)
PermaGhoul (Unholy)
Necrosis (few pts put in for filler)
Thanks for the help.
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My better smells like french toast.
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04/17/09, 6:06 PM
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#1411
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Glass Joe
Blood Elf Death Knight
Illidan
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Question: where can I find solid, mathy information on how armor penetration (both from rating and sunder/FF) works in 3.1?
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04/18/09, 12:18 AM
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#1412
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I find your lack of faith disturbing
Kroot
Orc Death Knight
No WoW Account
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Originally Posted by resky
Question: where can I find solid, mathy information on how armor penetration (both from rating and sunder/FF) works in 3.1?
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MMO-Champion BlueTracker - 116% Armor Pen only giving 66%!?!?!?!
Straight from the horses mouth, as they say.
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Three steps to a better EJB experience: Step One, Step Two, Step Three
And remember:
Originally Posted by Zeroblack
The Ignore functionality doesn't work if you guys keep quoting him.
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04/18/09, 3:10 AM
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#1413
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Glass Joe
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Is death strike bugged atm? I know it was nerfed in the last couple patches but I decided to collect some data b/c I was seeing very small heals from it and the crit rate was horrendous.
http://wowwebstats.com/3yvvmaumrwiki?ab=45470
This is data I collected on a target dummy and it shows 60 landed death strikes and only 4 crits out of 60... that's 7% with what should be around 22%+ in my tank gear as it is.
The damage done seems about right even after the nerf death strike received too. With the sigil, hysteria, 3/3 bloody vengeance, 100 runic power, glyphed, 4%+ dmg, abom's might, might of mograine and blood gorged critting for 6.5k and getting a 2.5k heal.
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Dark+Iron&n=Eeyoreprime
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04/18/09, 6:18 AM
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#1414
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Glass Joe
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The only bug I've been able to find so far with death strike (over a rather small sampling, 2 hours or so of testing) Has to do with the disease scaling of the heal portion:
At one disease, Death strike is healing for ~20% of damage done.
With two up, ~40%.
With three, the heal seems to remain 40% of damage, leading me to believe the talent was improperly coded to check only for Frost Fever and Blood Plague.
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04/18/09, 6:28 AM
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#1415
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Banned
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My spec is 12/0/59 atm and I have Cryptfiends Bite.
There is a weapon from doing those jousting dailys called 'Claymore of the Prophet' it has 186.5dps but with 67 hit. Getting this, I'd be able to change my helmet to something better from naxx/ulduar. But would I lose dps from changing the weapon and would a better helm like the 'Dragonsteel Faceplate' make up to difference?
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04/18/09, 8:15 AM
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#1416
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Von Kaiser
Undead Death Knight
Sporeggar (EU)
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Originally Posted by Zingzing
Is death strike bugged atm? I know it was nerfed in the last couple patches but I decided to collect some data b/c I was seeing very small heals from it and the crit rate was horrendous.
http://wowwebstats.com/3yvvmaumrwiki?ab=45470
This is data I collected on a target dummy and it shows 60 landed death strikes and only 4 crits out of 60... that's 7% with what should be around 22%+ in my tank gear as it is.
The damage done seems about right even after the nerf death strike received too. With the sigil, hysteria, 3/3 bloody vengeance, 100 runic power, glyphed, 4%+ dmg, abom's might, might of mograine and blood gorged critting for 6.5k and getting a 2.5k heal.
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Dark+Iron&n=Eeyoreprime
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Blizzard hotfixed it with a 75% reduction of the amount healed.
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04/18/09, 12:14 PM
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#1417
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Glass Joe
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Originally Posted by Itzena
Blizzard hotfixed it with a 75% reduction of the amount healed.
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Still a little concerned about the 7% crit rate I am getting with it though. I even went to low level dungeons and started mashing stuff and was only getting that 7% vs the 22% I should be getting.
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04/18/09, 11:06 PM
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#1418
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Piston Honda
Human Warrior
Eldre'Thalas
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Originally Posted by Zingzing
Still a little concerned about the 7% crit rate I am getting with it though. I even went to low level dungeons and started mashing stuff and was only getting that 7% vs the 22% I should be getting.
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60 death strikes is _way_ too small a sample to get any useful data from. Also note that there is a ~4% reduction to crit against boss level mobs. Try a larger sample, like several thousand, if you want more useful information.
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04/19/09, 5:12 AM
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#1419
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Glass Joe
Night Elf Druid
Arathor (EU)
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Haven't found any post about it so asking it here: Sigil of the Vengeful from XT-002, is it an upgrade to Unholy or should I just pass on it when it drops? Remember seeing mixed results of it but now some days after 3.1 release maybe there is an definite answer?
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04/19/09, 7:28 AM
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#1420
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Don Flamenco
Undead Priest
Talnivarr (EU)
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Does Bladed Armor ignore the extra armor gained from frost presence? Guildmate said it has a 30seconds pulse but after several minutes i have not seen any attack power increasement.
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04/19/09, 9:13 AM
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#1421
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Banned
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Originally Posted by Skulli
Does Bladed Armor ignore the extra armor gained from frost presence? Guildmate said it has a 30seconds pulse but after several minutes i have not seen any attack power increasement.
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Yes, and your guildmate is right. Gotta wait around 30-40 seconds before it updates.
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04/19/09, 11:54 AM
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#1422
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Glass Joe
Gnome Death Knight
Sylvanas (EU)
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Hmm..
I was woundering,
Major Glyph of Rune Strike - Increases chance to crit with Rune Strike by 10%.
New DK Tanking Tier 8 2x Bonus - Increases chance to crit with Rune Strike by 10%.
Do's these things stack? i was just woundering would be abit of useless to use the glyph otherwise.
If they do it TPSing time!
D'r.
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04/19/09, 2:06 PM
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#1423
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Piston Honda
Human Warrior
Eldre'Thalas
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Originally Posted by Nihenna
Haven't found any post about it so asking it here: Sigil of the Vengeful from XT-002, is it an upgrade to Unholy or should I just pass on it when it drops? Remember seeing mixed results of it but now some days after 3.1 release maybe there is an definite answer?
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The short answer is not really. Most estimates put it as a slight downgrade, assuming 4t7. If you ever drop 4t7, then it will be a significant downgrade from awareness. Either way, you should pass it to a frost or blood DK.
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04/20/09, 1:03 AM
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#1424
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Glass Joe
Night Elf Death Knight
Blackrock
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Is it a bad idea to spec into bloodworms seeing as they seem to eat up chain heals e.t.c ?
If theres a thread or anything on this i missed please point me in the right direction please , thanks 
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04/20/09, 5:13 AM
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#1425
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Piston Honda
Orc Death Knight
Moonglade (EU)
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Has there been any testing on which bosses in Ulduar have parry haste disabled? I was tanking Auriaya on 25-man, and she decided to hit me 4 times in about 1-1.5 seconds. With a few people dead and a lot of melee, it was a bit unsafe to have only the ranged group absorbing the Sonic Screech. It seems the melee getting parried may cause additional danger to the tank though, as either she has a thrash attack of somekind, or she can gain parry haste. We also had this happen at Ignis:
20:19:33.604 Tank's Devastate(R5) was parried by Ignis the Furnace Master.
20:19:33.604 Ignis the Furnace Master's hit Tank for 21559 damage.
20:19:34.045 Ignis the Furnace Master's hit Tank for 22729 damage.
2 hits in 0.4 seconds
It seems the rumors about parry haste being removed on a lot of bosses were greatly exaggerated, and it's still a problem.
Last edited by urotas : 04/20/09 at 5:25 AM.
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