For Single target I use:

OB/OB/BS/BS to open. Pop empower rune weapon, then move into the actual rotation of:


OB/OB/IT/BS/Rune Dump/OB/OB/BS/IT repeat.

If your Howling Blast hits harder than OB, you can use it instead.

Those were more questions for the short question/short answer thread.

But the answer is yes to both.

The thing about using Icy Touch while he's immune is that it will start your auto-attack back up, which will trigger Twilight Torment, so you need to be very careful. It's generally just better to stop attacking all-together once he's immune except for Blood Boil to keep your parry up. That way you won't parry haste him or activate Twilight Torment and put more stress on your healers.

I'm using
IT, BS, OB, BloodTap, OB, (FS till you Frost Fever needs to be refreshed)
IT, OB, OB, BS, (again FS) - and repeat this till boss will be dead ;]

this rotation (with Glyphed Obli) gave me in VotTW Frost build best threat generation (about 40% crit on Obli, ~45% on IT, ~25% on RS)

priority on this is IT if Frost Fever needs to be refreshed (for higher dmg on OB and FS), IT when FF is still up if you have Glacier Rot. BS for changing Blood rune in Death rune (when missed repeat, you have to change 1 blood rune into death rune every rotation), and at the end OB and FS.

Ok, haven't been able to read through all the posts, and this might have been asked already.
If you DW tank, and you spam runestrike every time it's up, would you lose much threat compared to a 2hander? (since that obviously has more weapon damage...)

I want to improve my TPS but i dont want to get to low hp, i have only made stam gems atm because i dont know how much hp that is good enough to raid with.
Would like to get some help with my geming so i can hold best TPS with the gear i have and what stats that is mininum to raid with so i dont have to much of one thing and to little of one. 32.6k hp in frost pressence
Sorry for my bad grammar :P

The World of Warcraft Armory

I just wanted to post up this build;

23/5/43

It's the spec our DK MT has been using for 25m Sarth 3d.

It maximizes HP and magic mitigation, and is highly specialized for heavy magic based fights. He has also used it on Malygos 25 man to great success.

Here's a link to his armory: Tsz

I highly respect him as a tank, and that's why I'm posting this here.

Ssoykesha...worst response to a DK thread I've seen in quite some time.

1) Crusader Aura does not affect anything except MOUNTED run speed. As such, if you see Crusader up in a fight, that Paladin is a moron.

2) Unholy Presence is something *EVERY* DK tank should have (obviously only if they are that deep into Unholy). Reasons?

A) You can enchant your boots with +22 Stamina instead of Tuskar's Vitality

B) Running out of the fire faster is good. Running into position as a tank is good. MUCH better than anything you suggested.

B) Frees up other DKs in the raid from the responsibility, so thats a DPS increase in some scenarios. This is why in the build I post below I do not get either CF or EP, so that if there are other Unholy DKs in the raid their disease bonuses don't get screwed with. This also allows me to put more points elsewhere for max survivability.

That being said, I use a slightly different tanking spec while tanking Sarth+3, but that one is pretty decent too, though I for the life of me don't understand why more tank DKs don't go 11 deep into Frost for Lichborne. Hell, during our first kill on Sarth +3 I got through all the super hardcore breaths, but he destroyed me at ~15% of his HP by landing 3 melee hits in a row. Additionally, with Death's Embrace minor glyph the self-healing from spamming DCs on yourself is useful at times in a pinch.

My Sarth +3 Spec

It's worth nothing that this is *NOT* designed for good TPS, instead maximizing survivability, self healing through all means available, etc.

Is spell deflection still overriding anti magic zone if it comes up?

No, spell deflection doesn't seem to have any negative interactions with any other mitigation abilities anymore.

Whats the HP, Armor, Def, and avoidance numbers required for Heroics?
Sorry if someone already answered that..I looked all day and couldn't see it.