Thanks, so i have to convince him to gimp himself, that's really numb :/

My gear is way better than him, but he will never admit (and i can't prove him wrong) that what he loses on dps by going blood, or UH without CF/EP is less than the DPS he take away from me by speccing into it.

We're really the only spec in the game with a matter like this, this should have been 1st in blizz todo list :/

One huge thing I've noticed in this patch just by beating on dummies, rune ability cooldowns update properly now.

Anyone who's played a DK extensively has probably noticed it. When you use up all your runes, or get death runes, et cetera, the cooldown for your spells on actionbars and in your spellbook can get very messed up. It makes using cooldown mods very frustrating.

It could often take several seconds for the 15 second cooldown of Death and Decay with morbidity to be reporting that it's actually on cooldown, like when there's only 5 seconds left.

That's a pretty poor explanation, but I think you know what I mean.

With this new patch, Death and Decay shows a 15 second cooldown instantly when I use it. Other abilities like Scourge Strike instantly light up when two death runes come up, instead of it getting confused and being greyed out with no actual cooldown displayed, but usuable.

I always assumed to be the root of the problem with Morbidity causing excessive lag, and with it fixed I would think it'll help some people's lock up/frame rate issues. Mind you, there could easily be other issues too.

Seriously people should stop going crazy with EP bug - it is NOT that bad as everyone thinks and it was posted few times here already.

BCB:
with EP - 30% * (25+[12.5*3]) = 30% * 62.5 = 18.75%
w/o EP -30% * (25+[12.5*2]) = 30% * 50 = 15%
Result: 3% white damage loss, given its 20% of our total damage we get 0.6% total dps loss. With 4.5k that would be 27 dps.

SS:
(158*3)/20 * 150% (crit) = ~36 dps (+ talents)

So we are talking here about 50-100dps loss which is like 1-2% given 5k dps. Now if you assume that debuff often "bounce" betweens DK's we are talking about like 1% damage loss. There is no point of that "OMG NO MOAR THAN ONE UNHOLY" paranoia at all - for example "unlucky" Ghoul/Garg/AotD can affect your damage much more than EP bug. Actually not specing EP lowers your damage more (3% crit loss).

Seems to me, that the Necrosis change is fairly nice. My average was just a tad over 1000 in Naxx 25 the other evening.

Yes, Deaths Bite would provide a dps increase. Don't forget that +STR on your weapon alos buffs your ghoul and scales with BoK and your +STR talents

but you have to consider it's 6 points for 3% crit since disease damage for DW is almost non-exist and the spell damage buff is provided by moonkins as well

Considering this fact, would it mean that Death's Bite would be more efficient DPS-wise than Betrayer of humanity?

Hm, something weird is happening to me. I am currently over the 8% hit cap for 2handers, however WWS reports some misses from 1 to 2% from my attacks. The strange part is that WMO reports do not show these same misses. Am I just being over-paranoid, or I'm missing something obvious?

On the other side, today for 7 hours my [Glyph of Raise Dead] was working, and suddenly I can't summon my ghoul anymore even after relogging. I get "missing Corpse Dust" message, and even after I bought 1x corpse dust just to try it, I still get that message.

Overall however I enjoy the patch, especially the buffed ghoul (when it works *shrug*). On fights that it was impossible for me to keep the ghoul up (Grobbulus & Heigan for example), the pet survived for a considerable amount of time and died only once on Heigan due to a lag spike. The result was that on these 2 fights I was much higher on DPS than usually.

Edit: The Betrayer is better than Death's Bite, regardless of the fact it lacks STR and has AP instead. The DPS increase it offers just from the weapon is substantial, and this alone makes it better than Death's Bite.

I think the higher weapon damage and higher dps outweigh the worse stats. It's not a big upgrade though.

Did you split your misses up in WWS? WWS lists parry and dodges as misses too.

Regarding Glyph: known bug, already reported in the unholy thread. No fix known though

No, stat value (NOT including weapon dps) for 2h Unholy are:
[item/before melee cap/after melee cap]
Death's Bite/1853.6/1757.7
Betrayer of Humanity/1874.3/1874.3
I used stats for Ghoul (increased STR and haste values).


Remember that WWS shows dodge and parry as "miss".

Yet Another 3.0.8 Bug - you are not alone.

That and other reports of Ghoul surviving whole Naxx makes me happy. I wonder if it can survive Sarth3D lava waves too.

I found that I was able to cast Raise Dead only after having successfully cast Raise Ally.

Oddly, my new pet ghoul came from the ally's corpse.

whenever I cast raise dead it does not use a corpse dust. i keep opening my bag and checking and after multiple casts it doesn't use my dust. I guess im lucky then. I notice in pvp aswell when i am rezzed by a spirit healer my pet is rezzed aswell, maybe its a change?

You not consuming Dust is due to Glyph of Raise Dead, which was changed to not require a reagent anymore.
Your second point seems like a change though.

Speaking for myself, and I think for most of the people experiencing the bug, the presence of a corpse still lets raise dead work. So, with the corpse there... yeah, you could summon.

The issue is that we cant raise dead without a corpse, regardless of having any corpse dust and/or the raise dead glyph.

Was just curious if the original 'cookie cutter' spec posted in this thread is still a competitor in 2H dps or switching to frost would be more appropriate?

Very much so. While the gargoyle nerf certainly hurt, the necrosis buff and increased ghoul survivability are quite good for 2H unholy, as well as the reduction in RP cost to UB.

my ghouls strength is 1797. when i use horn of winter it goes to 2200. 403 increase. I have the glyph of the ghoul and maxxed ravenous dead but he should still only be getting h the str from my buff and the str from his buff not 100 more, i guess this is something to take advantage of.

Your Ghoul gets more than 100% of your Strength even without the glyph

so by default he gets some str? how much?

So, which three Glyphs would you recommend? Scourge Strike is an obvious choice, but I'm not quite sure about the other two.

In addition, what is now the optimal rotation for Unholy? Is UB worth keeping up, as well?

RTFfirstpost.

quoted from the pet discussion thread

Your Ghoul has a 70% Strength Conversion even without talents and glyph