Bloody_sorcerer

As of 2.1.9.3 I consider rawr to provide relatively valid gear weights, at least insofar as gear setup comparisons within the context of one spec. The only significant change between release and SVN currently is a unholy presence functionality. There may be a few quirks left in buffs, but within a working set, relative gear values should be accurate. Also, 2T7 is currently modeled, but we have no intention of implementing 4T7; for an accurate modeling of 4T7, step through the smallest basic block of rotation (probably 20 seconds worth) and determine the exact number of abilities used (decimals work just fine - you can use 3.25 death coils per rotation in rawr). Additionally, scourge strike glyph is not modeled (or selectable, for that matter).

In any case, we should be having this conversation in the rawr thread.

 

Milaz_

I think the answer to your question is pretty clear : Obsidian Helm if you are hit cap and the BP if you are not (You can calculate it with Methods numbers, which are the best we have at the moment imo).

 

Goetterdaemmerung

Sarth2 drops one 226 item. There are 5 226 items. There is a 20% chance Sarth2 will drop the helm. (and incidentally, if the 3% number is accurate, it implies that 85% of the data points given to wowhead were from Sarth0/Sarth1 kills)

 

level12wizard

Speaking on behalf of the Undiminished Battleplate (or just about any item droprate you view through the item's page), that's an 8% drop chance when combining normal and heroic modes. Going to the boss' page and filtering by heroic mode drops shows an appropriate drop rate of 18%.

 

Tooya

I just had a quick question really fast. To obtain maximum DPS during the unholy rotation, do i continue the rotation all over again once the 20sec is up, OR if SS(with SS Glyph) refreshes diseases do i just use BS's and SS's and dumping RP until the disease timers run out then start rotation all over again? Really confused so far I've just been using the standard unholy rotation of PS-IS-BS-BS-SS-UB-SS-SS-SS-DC-DC regardless if the SS refreshed the diseases....so yea this would really be helpful to figure out. Thank you ^^

 

Shimerra

That's a question for the simple Q&A thread cleverly hidden at the top of the forum that I'm amazed you had to ask. What is the point of glyphs for SS if you're going to ignore its procs and reapply diseases anyway when they don't need to be? Yes you intelligently continue to BS/SS and reapply diseases when needed.

 

Milaz_

Tx to both of you. My bad. I'll erase the part on drops.

I'll keep the answer to his question though.

 

aroarian0

I have my rotation down pretty good but there is two things i find hard to keep track of still. I know there is a UI post but id rather get it from the Unholy DKs. Im curious if anyone has any suggestions for mods to track my boneshield and Unholy blight. I believe i tried needtoknow...but i guess im bad with mods because i couldn't figure it out for the life of me.

So does anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks.

 

lichdawg

ellispis mod does the trick Ellipsis (Multi-Target DoT Timers) : WoWInterface Downloads : Buff/Debuff/Spell Mods

but people will tell you to use the simple ask/answer thread instead ;-)

 

Foxx2405

I was using TellMeWhen for a lot of my timers, but i switched to a secondary system for the important ones like Bone Shield, Unholy Blight and procs (to ensure that they are always up and i always utilize the procs in time)

Which is Power Auras Classic, basically it displays a big symbol anywhere on your screen, so when i miss bone shield for example i have a big green circle that flashes right in the middle, it cant be missed and is somewhat annoying practically forcing me to reapply BS to remove it. Works really well for procs like Sudden Doom / Killing Machine, but just as well for 100% uptime abilities like Unholy Blight and Bone shield.

 

Stein

I also like Power Auras Classic; I use it combined with debuff filter.

 

Thiris

I ended up building my timers for Horn of Winter and Bone Shield into classtimer bars above my unit frame.



I keep my debuffs on the target frame and self buffs (filtered down) above my player frame. They never get above my rune mod, so I'm quite happy about it. Keeps most everything I "need" in the center of my screen, though I do use Power Auras to visually track things like Mirror / FC / Etc procs visually over my character and I feel like it works well.

http://sig.gamerdna.com/quizzes/INFL...s/Mageling.png

 

Derivel

Yes, I currently use TellMeWhen for everything except disease timers.

You can set it to track a buff, show when it is active, and how much time is remaining (which is done in the style of OmniCC). The problem is that it seems to get confused on UB a lot when I refresh it before it runs out. May have to switch to something else as well.

 

thevidon

Has anyone gotten a GM response on the Raise Dead bug? Not being able to summon a ghoul is pretty crippling......

 

level12wizard

There's been a few blue posts, this one on the EU forums being the most prominent: ghoul bug

I haven't been affected by the bug (been blood for PvP), but I also wasn't hit by it last time this happened right after 3.0.8. when I was actually Unholy (with NotD), still boggled as to what really triggers it. It's really amazing that they broke it again, and saying it will take a patch to fix it is hopefully false. In PvE, not having the ghoul around is a loss of roughly 15% DPS, not to mention the obvious Arena implications.

From what I understand though, you can still raise it from a humanoid corpse. There's humanoid trash in the Death Knight wing, and you might be able to use a dead (suicidal?) party member's corpse too. Not to mention killing any humanoid outside of a raid and zoning back in. Those -might- be usable workarounds for PvE, the only fights I find the ghoul really dying on anymore (when properly managed) is Heigan, Sapphiron, and sometimes Sartharion. If that's too much trouble and you're not concerned about the raid buffs, it might be a good day to try out blood or something.

 

• Lanky

Just use the damn glyph, I haven't had any problems raising ghouls.

[e] apparently this only affects certain people? Wow. Something in Naxx maybe, which makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

 

dr_AllCOM3

You're Frost, this most likely happens to Unholy only. I have the bug, too.

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parvindk

I had the bug yesterday so I switched to Frost DPS to raid.

This morning I tried to raise a ghoul and it worked, so I respec'd to unholy and it kept on working, I've summoned 3 ghouls or so before going to work.

I don't know if they hotfix'd it or something, but I don't think I did anything special except changing specs and major glyphs (not even touching the Raise Dead one...)

I Hope that it'll keep on working.

~

 

Verne

I had the ghoul bug back when the patch first came out. It lasted for a day and had worked fine ever since but it returned two days ago during Sartharion raid. Eventually I got a GM to answer my ticket and he told me that its a know bug. After that he told me to keep my ticket open so someone else could hotfix it for me.

 

Bullshifter

Since we're on the subject of the bug- which I hear was hotfixed early this morning, though I haven't been on to verify, I have another question (would probably be good for the pet thread, but heck we're on the subject). I ran H-Gund last night, and I swear my ghoul died 4 times during the instance- it felt nowhere near as hardy as it has since the change to NotD in 3.08- almost like the talent was bugged in such a way that the pet wasn't getting the AoE reduction. Has anyone else experienced this? I wasn't doing anything different than normal, but it just kept taking damage where it hasn't been lately.

 

Gumibear

Every time the ghoul bug has happened to me, I was able to fix it by getting a warlock to hellfire to death between fights so I could use Raise Ally. Something about using Raise Ally unlocks a bugged Raise Dead.

 

Afabar

You can cast raise dead only because the game found a dead body to transform into a ghoul.
It should consume a corpse dust if no corpse is available ( or nothing with the minor glyph).

 

Gumibear

I could not cast Raise Dead with a player corpse around until I used Raise Ally first.

 

Bullshifter

That's what the deal was for me when I first experienced the bug after 3.08 as well. I couldn't Raise Dead period, even on humanoid corpses. The "work around" was to cast Raise Ally on a dead party member, then you could use Raise Dead normally again, and that worked, and I haven't had any problems since. However, since the bug started popping back up again, this "workaround" doesn't seem to work very well any more. However, I have heard that it has been hot-fixed earlier this morning, but I haven't been able to log on and verify whether this is indeed the case or not.

 

dr_AllCOM3

Today it works. Maybe there was a hotfix.

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