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01/27/09, 12:14 PM
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Piston Honda
Draenei Death Knight
Medivh
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Doc, where on your sheet can i find the rotation you're using for frost/unholy and frost/blood? Reason i ask is because I don't think anyone in the Frost 2h thread has found unholy > blood in dps tests.
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01/27/09, 12:36 PM
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#52
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Great Tiger
Orc Death Knight
Blutkessel (EU)
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Originally Posted by EwokChilli
Doc, where on your sheet can i find the rotation you're using for frost/unholy and frost/blood? Reason i ask is because I don't think anyone in the Frost 2h thread has found unholy > blood in dps tests.
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The big blue box.
zSHARE - Doc_DK_DPS_v023.zip
Works with Excel2007 and OO, Apple/Mac-> here.
- Update: other fixes
Last edited by dr_AllCOM3 : 02/02/09 at 9:47 PM.
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01/28/09, 8:37 AM
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#53
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King Hippo
Orc Death Knight
Jaedenar (EU)
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Doc it seems there is something wrong with haste value for 2h Unholy. When I decrease Ghoul uptime, haste value increase while it should be the other way. Also hit value (pre-melee cap) does not change with Ghoul uptime like it should.
Also I found strange that Blood get so high hit values before and after cap. For example: 3.8 (!), 3.16 pre-cap. Compare that to 1.89 I got for Frost and 1.75 for Unholy. The hit value after melee cap is "strange" same way having double the value for Blood. I suspect something is not right there.
P.S. I recalculated SEP so that 1 AP = 1.0 always.
Last edited by Fugazor : 01/28/09 at 10:30 AM.
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01/28/09, 2:45 PM
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#54
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Don Flamenco
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Foerthas - because of the way you handle the RP from Butchery, in some cases some of it is not used by the dmp. In the aggregate case, all of that RP would be used, though some of it would be from the rotation before this one - I suggest that the net rp from Butchery over the course of a rotation be added in at the beginning instead of along the way.
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01/29/09, 1:48 AM
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Glass Joe
Human Death Knight
Khaz Modan
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Doc how do I put enchants on weapons? I looked through the sheets and saw some of the modifiers for them but wasn't exactly sure how to add them in. Thanks in advance.
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01/30/09, 5:53 AM
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#56
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Piston Honda
Tauren Death Knight
Dath'Remar
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The spreadsheet has 'rotations' listed by title, but doesn't have any notes on what exactly those rotations are.
We could assume, but might be helpful to be specific.
Secondly, it would be helpful if fields which need to have data-entry are coloured-coded to say all one coloure, say yellow.
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01/31/09, 3:47 AM
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#57
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Von Kaiser
Orc Death Knight
Thunderlord
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The rotations are available in each of the three "build" sheets. You can also edit the rotations and compares numbers on those sheets though I've yet to figure out how you import those new rotations into the main sheet.
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02/01/09, 11:40 AM
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#58
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Banned
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Hello dr_AllCOM3
Do you apply a DW Spreadsheet by your zSHARE - Doc_DK_DPS_v023.zip?
greetings
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02/01/09, 1:29 PM
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#59
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Great Tiger
Orc Death Knight
Blutkessel (EU)
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Originally Posted by Eru
Hello dr_AllCOM3
Do you apply a DW Spreadsheet by your zSHARE - Doc_DK_DPS_v023.zip?
greetings
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Uh, what?
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02/02/09, 5:08 PM
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#60
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Glass Joe
Human Death Knight
Muradin
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Hey, thanks for making these spreadsheets. I am using Excel for Mac, and it doesn't seem to want to open your spreadsheet, dr_AllCOM3, with a .xlsm extension. It's probably just the fact that I have a mac I guess.
Also Feorthas, when I tried to use your spreadsheet in googledocs it wouldn't let me edit the stats block, and when I exported it there was an error about a looping macro or something.
I'm probably just doing something wrong?
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02/02/09, 7:32 PM
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Glass Joe
Human Death Knight
Earthen Ring
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Originally Posted by Ataradan
Hey, thanks for making these spreadsheets. I am using Excel for Mac, and it doesn't seem to want to open your spreadsheet, dr_AllCOM3, with a .xlsm extension. It's probably just the fact that I have a mac I guess.
I'm probably just doing something wrong?
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I tried this spreadsheet on a Mac, and was told that Excel '08 for Mac doesn't support the Visual Basic macros in the sheet. That may well be the problem you're seeing.
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02/02/09, 7:48 PM
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Glass Joe
Human Death Knight
Nesingwary
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Originally Posted by dr_AllCOM3
I'm still waiting for some constructive feedback  .
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Unless I'm looking at it wrong, it looks like your figuring the DKs AP simply as (Str * 2) + GearAP. It should be AP From Str + Base AP + Ap from Gear. Where Ap From Str = (Str * 2) - 20 and Base Ap = Lvl * 3 or simply 240 + (Str * 2) - 20 + ItemAP. Hope it helps.
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02/02/09, 8:06 PM
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Von Kaiser
Orc Death Knight
Thunderlord
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This should help you if you're having issues opening the spreadsheets on a Mac. The other option is to download NeoOffice.
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02/02/09, 8:38 PM
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Glass Joe
Human Death Knight
Muradin
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That worked, thanks =)
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02/02/09, 9:21 PM
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Von Kaiser
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OpenOffice.org would work as well.
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02/02/09, 9:50 PM
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Great Tiger
Orc Death Knight
Blutkessel (EU)
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Originally Posted by Oke
Unless I'm looking at it wrong, it looks like your figuring the DKs AP simply as (Str * 2) + GearAP. It should be AP From Str + Base AP + Ap from Gear. Where Ap From Str = (Str * 2) - 20 and Base Ap = Lvl * 3 or simply 240 + (Str * 2) - 20 + ItemAP. Hope it helps.
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I have not included race stats. You can't change your race anyway  . It also is boring to implement  .
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02/06/09, 1:05 PM
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Glass Joe
Undead Death Knight
Shadowsong
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Does anyone have an alternate download location for the spreadsheet? This zshare site is telling me I can't use it because I am using an ad-blocker and wants me to disable it.
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02/06/09, 7:34 PM
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Von Kaiser
Tauren Druid
Skullcrusher
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Originally Posted by archmage
Does anyone have an alternate download location for the spreadsheet? This zshare site is telling me I can't use it because I am using an ad-blocker and wants me to disable it.
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I had the same problem, I just opened the link in Internet Explorer and it worked fine.
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02/09/09, 5:27 PM
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Piston Honda
Blood Elf Paladin
Area 52
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Doc, for completeness would it be possible to get rotations based on using Blood Boil in lieu of Blood Strike for DW specs?
It also seems as if the frost strike glyph isn't working in the spreadsheet with the new change to it in-game, it should be a dps increase no?
One last comment, I've seen the diseaseless blood spec rotation do very well in game but yet doesn't coincide with your sheet.
The sheet looks and operates awesomely btw, kudos. Just trying to help to make it better.
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02/11/09, 6:56 PM
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Piston Honda
Orc Death Knight
Destromath
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Nevermind, I disabled my torrent downloader and got it to work. Thanks anyways.
Last edited by royaljester : 02/11/09 at 7:05 PM.
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02/11/09, 7:33 PM
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Piston Honda
Orc Death Knight
Destromath
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After looking over the sheet, I noticed that its' very rough. I assume this is how it will be, just want to be clear that I got the right sheet and not a previous one?
As such, will there be future implementation of putting in the gems we have, or is it assumed that every socket is 16str? (3x 27str if a jc, as I am). Also, will we have to input our own racial's into this sheet too?
I don't want to sound like I'm spitting in the face of all your hard work, I think the fact that you have our dps based on 3 diff specs at one time as an AMAZING feature unto itself, I only ask to know if I should start investing a lot of time to enchance my sheet for ally/gnome things and gear that maybe isnt top of that top, as it will never happen from the creator. Thoughts?
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02/13/09, 10:01 PM
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#72
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Piston Honda
Blood Elf Death Knight
Mal'Ganis
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Razorice
dr_AllCOM3: Why does razorice give a 1.1 bonus multiplier (rather than 1.05 for its 5% buff)? Also, I've ended up hardwiring it to 1.05 because it only toggles on if the sheet detects I'm DWing -- yet I receive the buff in my raid from another DWing DK. This is a nontrivial DPS gain for my 6xIT 2h spec (and slightly less so for other 2h frost) which the sheet overlooks.
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02/13/09, 11:16 PM
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#73
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Glass Joe
Night Elf Death Knight
Doomhammer
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dr_AllCOM3: I did not find any reference to it in spreadsheet but it does not seem to include UA into account ( entered 2 specs that are the same with the only difference being UA included in one and "filler" mind-freeze talent in another - same DPS produced in all rotations )
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02/17/09, 5:01 PM
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#74
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Glass Joe
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I noticed in Feorthas' spreadsheet that Impurity is affecting Frost Strike damage. It was my understanding that no strikes gained any benefit from Impurity. Is that correct? That could explain some inconsistencies I've seen between the predicted dps and what I've observed.
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