Looking at the stat weightings would have answered your question. ArP is worth more for a Blood spec due to physical damage, as you stated, however its still not worth going out of your way to stack it.

In answer to part 1, the website is only taking into account the numbers you've given it and applying that to a single piece of gear. All you've told it is that Expertise is worth 2.848 and Str is worth 2.557, so for any given piece it's going to rank gear with expertise on it very highly. However, the value of both expertise and hit go down significantly for DKs beyond 26 expertise and 8% hit. You want to gear accordingly-- after you're capped, strength is your best stat. Also, the numbers are a bit different for Blood dps-- in particular, Armor penetration is quite good for blood.

As for part 2, yes, prismatic gems count toward metagem requirements. Socket colors don't matter. Chaotic Skyflare is your best choice, because crit rating is more valuable to us than agility.

My spreadsheet has an automatic loot rank link generator.

Unfortunately Necrosis cannot overkill, so when the dummy gets to 1HP Necrosis will begin hitting for 1 indefinitely.

This makes any results with Necrosis unreliable, especially when you consider it is going from 10% to 20% in this patch (and that DPS increase won't be reflected in your results).

My pvp set gives 20%~ passive. I went on the ptr and switched the gems to str, and left the gear the same. I lost about 100damage average on melee hits on the boss dummy. Difference wasn't much but I figure that in pvp I have enough AP from my paladin teammate and the +30%str proc on my weapon.

With that said, heart strike on non shield wearing targets hit like a truck with all this armor pen. Hardest hitting ability per rune spent.

I had some problems getting this working, possibly due to my latency (400+ usually). What would happen is it clears my target, summons a dancing rune weapon in front of the target dummy I was practising on, and then I sit there with no target until I press another attack (which automatically targets the closest enemy).

I did find a workaround tho, which is actually much simpler. All you need is :

/cast [target=player] Hysteria
/cast [target=player] Dancing Rune Weapon

This summons the Dancing Rune Weapon with you as a target, so it appears right next to you, and immediately starts attacking your current target.

BS glyph...

I came up with the following numbers after some testing this morning (With a classic IT>PS>HS>HS>OB>DC IT>PS>HSx4 rotation... didn't want to get complicated):

World Boss dummy
Special/Spell hit capped (264 hit score and 3/3 Virulence)
Expertise capped
3400 Ap / 33% Cc

Without glyph of BS my dps ranged from 3183 up to 3456 at best.
With glyphe of BS my dps ranged from 3519 up to 3807 at best.

It seems the up is about of 15% dps... far too much in my opinion/maths. I didn't look at my crit rate on any attempts. The numbers could come from RNG luck but I hope not.

New numbers with WWS link should be up by tonight.

If the increase is truly that great 51/0/20 might be the way to go after 3.08.

Could other Blood DK's dish out their numbers after serious testing for comparison please?

So the BS Glyph works with chilleffects like Icy Touch on PTR?

No, slow effects like Desecration or FFB.


I have a problem with my rotation. When I have four D runes avaiable, casting PS-IT will always take two U runes. That's kinda annoying. How do you deal with this situation?

There was a bluepost about this issue and they said "we will investigate this issue, thx.".

So i hope they fix it with 3.0.8.

That is some impressive numbers on boss dummies as Blood. Using the same rotation I cant crack 2.5k which makes me wonder where I am going wrong.

So I recently got the Heigan sigil (finally!), and I switched to a double oblit rotation instead of quad HS (51/13/7).
But I'm wondering if it would be better to go back to a quad HS rotation with the changes to the BS glyph? Also, when I use DRW, would it be better to use quad HS over double oblit since when the DRW uses obliterate, it consumes his diseases?

Yea this is very annoying, what I usually do is when I've used UU for IT+PS, I usually follow up with oblit right after so the FU runes wont be that far apart. Obviously you shouldn't do this without Annihilation, but you could use Oblit before applying diseases and still get the FU timers near each other.

A 4*HS Rotation should deal more damage. The exact point is that the OB consumes the DRW diseases and reduces dps.
With the [Sigil of Haunted Dreams] going from haste to Critical Strike rating [Sigil of Awareness] becomes less valuable and a double OB rotation would be a dps nerf.

Going from a 51/13/7 to a 51/0/20 using a 4*HS rotation with Blood Glyph & [Sigil of Haunted Dreams] will be a great dps increase. A permanent 3.768% Cc is rather nice.

With current numbers on PTR the HS damage using [Betrayer of Humanity] and 5000 AP (Raid Situation):

Without Glyph of BS

((758) + (3.3 * 5000 / 14))*0.6)+220.8+(110.4*2) = 1603.54 Base damage 1747.86 with Bloody Vengeance.

With Glyph of BS

(((758) + (3.3 * 5000 / 14))*0.6)+220.8+(110.4*2))*1.2 =1924.24 Base damage 2097.43 with Bloody Vengeance.

With Glyph of BS and Bloody strikes

((((758) + (3.3 * 5000 / 14))*0.6)+220.8+(176.64*2))*1.2)*1.3 = 2708.19 Base damage 2951.93 with Bloody Vengeance.


With current numbers on PTR the OB damage using [Betrayer of Humanity] and 5000 AP (Raid Situation):

Without Glyph & without [Sigil of Awareness]

((758) + (3.3 * 5000 / 14))*1)+292+(146*2) = 2520.57 Base damage 2747.42 with Bloody Vengeance.

Without Glyph & [Sigil of Awareness]

((758) + (3.3 * 5000 / 14))*1)+502+(261*2) = 2940.57 Base damage 3205.22 with Bloody Vengeance.

With Glyph & [Sigil of Awareness]

(((758) + (3.3 * 5000 / 14))*1)+502+(261*2))*1.2 = 3528.68 Base damage 3846.26 with Bloody Vengeance.


Overall Damage Breakdown:


4*HS is 2951.93*4 = 11807.73 Damage.
2*OB is 3846.26*2 = 7692.52 Damage.

So overall 4*HS is a gain. Swaping to 51/0/20 is also a dps gain. And the diseases from DRW are also a gain.

Blood Glyph is Goooood!

Edit: Forgot to factor in Bloody Strikes done now.

My sheet shows 6x HS as the worst Blood rotation. Slightly for Blood/Frost, more for Blood/Unholy.
Also, Awareness is better with even just one Oblit.

Do not forget that using 4x HS takes more time than using 2x OB. If you truely wanted to see which would be better DPS you should take in account that extra Death Coil or two you get to cast with 2x OB rotation (assuming smooth rotations for best DoT uptime).

True. But I had omitted Bloody strikes... so the increase is clearly in favor of HS.

To do an in depth comparison I would have to compare 51/13/7 using a HS*4 rotation and a OB*2 rotation and compare it with 51/0/20 using a HS*4 rotation and a OB*2 rotation.

51/13/7 is a 3% Cc increase in addition to not consuming diseases on OB.

While 51/0/20 is +20% auto-attack damage from Necrosis, +15% auto-attack damage from BCB, 3% Spell hit (Capping Melee and Spell hit in a raid situation with 264 hit), +60% Str shared to goul and Shadow of death.

Now with 5000 Ap a Death Coil would deal:

(5000*0.15)+443)*1.15 = 1371.95 damage on average.

Let's assume you can get an extra DeathCoil into the rotation it's an extra 1371.95 damage per rotation. While the HS*4 rotation deals far more damage than the OB*2.

Let's get back to that macro thingy. Have a look at mine please and let me know if there are any improvements.

Cheers

I sold Dark Rider... daaaaamn!

Wouldn't be better to compare with 6xHS 1OB, no ? (since you don't have annihilation)

I was comparing HS*4 vs OB*2 just for the second rotation. But you're right. The comparison should be on HS*6 + 1*OB.


Losing track of things... haven't slept since two days. Comparing all builds everyday (I <3 dps) to try and maximise the possible dps output of each build and find the "HOLY SHIT I HURT" build to replace DW.

So far my numbers show that 51/0/20 is above Frost and Unholy builds and even DW. But Frost (21/50/0) seems to scale unreasonably well with higher levels of gear than in the current content.

For the 51/0/20 spec, which cycle are you using? Currently I know of 2:

IT-PS-HS-HS-OB-DC
IT-PS-HS-HS-HS-HS-DC

and

OB-PS-IT-HS-HS-DC
HS-HS-DC-HS-HS-DC

Which one did you test?

I used IT-PS-HS-HS-OB-DC
IT-PS-HS-HS-HS-HS-DC

To keep it easy and not mess up my rotations.