Eh ? IT/PS come back as frost and unholy - where are you getting 6 heart strikes from ?

I had problems with that macro aswell, so I changed it a little and now I'm using this without problems (on live, haven't tried it on ptr)

#showtooltip Dancing Rune Weapon
/cast [target=xxxx] Dancing Rune Weapon

Where xxxx is your characters name.

edit : Thank you Zaphod, with just one brain i could't figure it out ^^

it works on PTR

Dummy comparisons of the variety I specifically discribed, namely across specs and done on the same server, are totally useless. Without an accompanying proof that the differences observed would be relevant in a raid environment i.e. a set of derived conversion factors based on raid buffs and dummy DPS that could adjust the output of every build in exactly the same way raid buffs/debuffs do, it is impossible to know what a significant difference in dummy DPS even looks like. You can assume that 1000 is enough to demonstrate something is wrong if you wish but as long as it's just a number you pulled out of thin air it doesn't prove anything is wrong emperically, only normatively.

I would have to agree though, it would be nice if the boss dummies mirrored a raid environment in a tank-and-spank boss fight by not running out of HP, not being vulnerable to debuffs real bosses are immune to, and automatically having every debuff active or some kind of interface for activating or deactivating debuffs.

Just wondering...

Has anyone done the math to compare Blood Caked Blade vs Toughness + Bladed Armor?

At what AC level would Toughness + Bladed Armor pass the dps gain from BCB and is it even attainable?

I doubt the extra 60-65 AP from 5/5 Toughness is ever going to be worth BcB.

This was the previous solution that seemed to work best (note, this has been a "problem" for quite some time with DRW; so far as I know, it's never been fixed...this is not something new to the PTR).

Remember though, you don't need to use your actual name.

#showtooltip Dancing Rune Weapon
/cast [target=player] Dancing Rune Weapon

That and I'll bet 2/3 BCB will also beat 2/2 RPM

the question is, will 3/3 BCB beat 2/2 RPM + 1/2 NotD?

2/2 provides an extra 3s to DRW (I think) and 1/2 NotD will lower the CD of raise dead by 45s. I highly doubt that either of those will outweigh 3/3 BCB, unless you're somehow getting the perma-ghoul.

Then the raved 51/2/18 is pretty much dead because 51/0/20 will be better

1/2 NotD also increases your ghoul's AoE resistance by 40%, which will greatly increase its survival time on any fights involving AoE.

I'm confused, however, as to why we're discussing dropping points from BCB rather than Morbidity in order to pick up NotD. 20-25% of our damage comes from melee, while only 5-10% of our damage comes from Death Coils. Both talents boost their respective sources by approximately 5% damage per talent point. Thus, it seems fairly obvious that 3/3 BCB should be sacrosanct.

I agree that dropping 2/2 extra rp is going to be the option. It just doesn't seem as worth it as it was when it first launched.Only 3 more seconds on DRW and now since the Glpyh of Deathstrike was nerfed it brings the need down.I am seeing a spec like this working:
http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?deat...5&version=9757
Now my question is what do you think the glyph choices would be. The ones I have chosen are they sufficient? Or did I miss something with the Bloodstrike glyph

The Bloodstrike glyph no longer affects Heart Strike. You're probably better off with Death and Decay.

[e]: or DRW, as stated below, can't believe I missed that.

DS F/U runes turn into death runes, hence the reason I open with an undiseased one...

EDIT: Duher, I realized where you were seeing an error in what I typed out. That should have been HS x4, not x6.

EDIT EDIT: Thanks for making me doubt myself! I was right with my initial post.

I'm personally leaning towards DRW, even in its nerfed state. I don't drop D&D much, especially not on bosses.

Wouldn't it be better to open up with IT/PS in order to get some runic power so that Death Strike might benefit from it's glyph?

I had forgotten that DS now grants 10% AP. Now that I realize that, it's probably far more important to open up with a DS, for your benefit and, more importantly, the raid's.

As a side thought, for those Blood DKs who take Unholy Blight, the UB glyph (+10 second duration) might be a viable option, too.

well what about getting the glyph of ghoul now with the new NOTD buff. It would be useful you think instead of 5 secs more on drw?

Even with the nerfed state of dwr. The extra damage from the glyph should out way the benefit of taking the glyphed ghoul.

UB vs DRW
https://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/t...37214145&sid=1


Some logs from 4/1/09, IC hardmode, 51/0/20 glyphed DRW, DC, DS
WoW Meter Online - Combatlog Replay in Engrish

I think the prospect he proposes is interesting. It's a nice read and definitely worth looking into. Sometimes what looks good on paper doesn't always measure up in an actual raid setting. UB is easy to maintain. It can be fitted easy into any rotation and you don't have to watch your rp as much as you would with drw. Definitely worth checking out.