You always could. I don't see why this would change things.

They've been reported already and got a blue response.

You can already have both a Ghoul Pet and Risen Ally up at the same time. I don't see why this would change.

Hmm...I'll have to retest..it seems like anytime I do it that it unsummons my ghoul. Most my testing has been done in the arena with this.

I was doing it consistently last Wednesday on 25-man Kel'Thuzad.

Afaik, cooldown permitting, you can have an unlimited number of player controlled Ghouls but only one NPC Ghoul active at any time. Of course, the cooldown and inviability of spamming PS to get the CD down means that the most you'll usually see is two player controlled Ghouls, or one NPC and one player controlled.

Not quite.

Currently and completely untalented, abilities that cost 1 rune generate 10 RP. Abilities that cost 2 runes generate 15 RP. Abilities that cost 3 runes generate 20 RP.

There are only two abilities that fall into that third category: Army of the Dead and Death and Decay. All the patch note means is that AOTD and D&D will now generate 15 RP instead of 20.

Chains of Ice and Icy Touch both generate 10 RP and will generate 15 RP with Chill of the Grave.
Howling Blast and Obliterate both generate 15 RP and will generate 20 RP with Chill of the Grave.

The patch will not change this.

This means that the 3-rune abilities now generate less (they previously generated 20 runic power), so no freed points unfortunately.

The idea is to stop us from chain casting death and decay out of combat to fill up on runic power.

With 3/3 Morbidity you can cast DnD every 15 seconds. Right now you generate 20 RP per cast, and lose 15 between casts to RP decay, so over several minutes you can build up to full runic power. This is common knowledge but I'm repeating it because people seem confused. After the change you'll gain 15 RP per cast and lose 15 to RP decay, so zero net gain.

Unless I'm missing something, I don't see any strong method to this change.

Current: Gain 5rp per 15sec by chaining DnD.
Post-3.08: Gain 10rp per 30sec by chaining DnD and Horn.

The only effect of this is that you won't have to DnD to precast Horn. If you want to build to 100rp between pulls, you still can.

That doesn't make sense. RP drops OOC by 1/second. The RP you'd gain from DnD would negate itself in the cooldown. and the same with HoW. At best you'd start the fight with 25RP, but 3 runes on CD, or 10RP and no runes on CD.

My apologies, I'm used to not having morbidity so when I saw "every 30 seconds" I was assuming they did not also.

There's a new PTR build 9355 (See mmo-champion). It doesn't mention anything about the new 2handers we get, so it's probably waiting until someone actually checks themselves.

It was my impression, that, unless it has been changed the cooldown on Horn of Winter was going to be 2m. So you could keep negating the 15rp from DnD, but you can't keep chaining HoW. If it didn't have the cooldown you wouldn't need to chain DnD anyways, since as you said, it would cancel itself out.

Last time I read it, CD on Horn was 30secs for an uptime of 2min, 3min glyph'd.

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With the latest patch notes, the CD has been reduced to 20 seconds.

Also Crypt Fever and Ebon Plague no longer stack.

My favorite PvE glyph nerfed because of PvP plus that -30% damage bug fix *ouch*
They fixed Shadow Embrace stacking for locks so HOPEFULLY Ebon Plaguebringer will be fixed with 3.0.8 too.

Huh, just read the latest notes and its down to 20s now. First time I read it was uptime of 2m with a CD of 2m pre-glyph. Suppose it doesn't really make too much of a difference either way, we don't have a way to cheat our runic power. Best thing I can recommend is running to a boss cast DnD and HoW given enough time to get halfway back on the rune cooldowns. Should leave us with around 20 runic power as you reach target.

From MMO-Champion.com
Does that officially make the [Glyph of Death and Decay] a desireable glyph for DPS specs? I know I'm strongly considering dropping the [Glyph of Bone Shield] for it.

Wonder if Ebon Plague stacks yet (as in not the effect, but more than one disease being up). We should go try that, I guess. The Dancing Rune Weapon buff could possibly be quite nice, too.

For AE situations (trash), yes. For (current) boss fights it is useless.