We have our seperate threads for theory crafting each of our three potential DPS trees and the variants that belong to them. This patch has changed a lot of that, as a community I think we need to pool our resources and find out what is going to become the best DPS spec. Granted some people will and are going to argue raid utility, fine, I realize that we are awesome at providing CoE /EP to a large group of enemies and if your the only DK in the group you may not have a choice, for the rest of the community that runs with more than one here's what I propose!

1) Link your spec and your rotation
2) Link your WWS or Wowmeters (Please include Patchwork! This is the best potential benchmark for determining standardized DPS)
3) Label any outlying factors affecting your DPS.
These include:
"I accidentally taunted and died half way through the fight"
"Hit garg with Blood Fury, Trinket and rune forge proc"
"I did not rune forge my weapon because I just got an upgrade the last fight"
"I am new to this spec my rotation is sloppy"
4) Link your weapons and your rune forge enchants (Include your Sigil)
5) Please note if it is a 10 or 25man

I will update this as much as I from as many DPS reports i can find. I wanted to create a page that can quickly compare our various DPS specs to see what each one is capable of, without needing to open four different windows to view each separate trees theory crafting.

32/39

RADRyanD
WOWmeter 5603DPS
Angry Dead MH

Aeren
Hailstorm + FC/Hailstorm + CG
ps it hb hs hs dump, ps it hb it it dump rotation
Gargoyle used with Loatheb's Clicky, but not during any procs, so very poorly timed. AotD 5 seconds prepull.

Wow Web Stats 5598DPS

Edit: AotD not parsed correctly there. They did around 39k, putting me up one more spot, and averaging out to 5891 dps.

Synovial
Last Laugh/Hailstorm IT sigil
/cancelaura freezing fog, normal rotation otherwise
gargoyle used on reflection of torment, AotD prepull but does not show on WWS (Showed 5800 on recount).
Wow Web Stats 4875

Grimaxe
WoW Meter 5708 dps
Fast/fast weapon set up Dual widow's fury, fallen crusader mh, cinderglacier oh
using the old 32/39 rotation.
I didn't have plague strike glyph, i still had my unholy scourge strike glyph on. Also i Didn't have the new ice touch sigil.
I think i can push more dps now that i got angry dead last nite for main hand.

Cabal
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Slow ([Monster - Angry Dread]) / Fast ([Split Greathammer])
Fallen crusader / Razorice (mage buffing).
Recount showed me as 5900+, so im guessing the actual dps in wowmeteronline is more accurate.
Was on tonight´s 25 Man Naxx clear. Using [Sigil of the Frozen Conscience] <3
I had around 15 seconds of lag/delay mid fight, so im confident I could have around 50/100 dps more.

Smutt
WoW Meter Online
6215 dps patchwerk
split greathammer hatestrike fast fast
fc razorice
forgot to eat food buff and didn't food buff pet. got new gear later in run for another 100 ap or so and gargoyle didnt get lusted. 6500+ next week shouldn't be hard. gonna spec 0/33/38 no crypt fever and get deathchill next week.

Jakks
5772 dps on patchwork tonight using a 0/31/40 build.
Using Duel Hailstorms (due to the fact the we haven't seen and angry dread).
Also used the new IT sigil seems to be a lot more DPS.
Used normal /cancelaura macro's
Recount
WWS no ghoul and AotD shown.

Zurm
PS-IT-BS-BS-HB-RP
PT-IT-IT-IT-HB-RP
Weapons were [Silent Crusader] MH, [Widow's Fury] OH. Sadly, due to a bug with outfitter and prismatic gems, I was wearing a tanking chest and tanking sigil for the fight, instead of the Icy Touch one from Grizzly hills.
5414 DPS

Hidden
Priority based rotation
Widow's Fury/Split Greathammer
5945 DPS
WoW Meter
25 Man
I was raiding with an Unholy DK so no 3rd disease.
What hurt my DPS most is that I died early at ~40% while Heroism was just popped and Merciless Combat didn't affect my abilities yet. Due to stopping to count my DPS when I stop dealing damage and my 18 second diseases, my actual DPS also went down quite a bit after I died, I was at a constant ~5900 before I died.

0/44/27 2H

Meneldil
Wow Web Stats 5127DPS
Aotd was cast just before/during pull, I was using /cancelaura Freezing Fog macros for both Icy Touch and Howling Blast.
Rotation was PS, IT, BS, BS, HB, RP dump, PS, IT, IT, IT, HB, RP dump. The rp dump obviously being frost strike. I decided against using Obliterate due to impurity and the fact i have yet to receive a sigil of awareness (and of course oblit being bugged atm and not generating rp). Gargoyle was used after heroism and during a Unholy Strength proc.


51/0/20

Siyx
WoW Web Stats 5038DPS
PS - IT - HS - HS - OB - DC
PS - IT - HSx4 - DC
[i]Glyph of Blood Strike
Glyph of Obliterate
Glyph of Icy Touch
I would probably switch IT to PS glyphs if Obliterate was actually generating RP, but its not.
I didn't use AoTD

Lazareth
Wow Web Stats 4072DPS
New to the rotation

Lapin
51/0/20 with 0 disease rotation (was posted in the blood thread)
OB OB HS HS
OB HS HS HS HS
HS HS OB HS HS
OB HS HS HS HS
Glyphs: BS/Obli/Ghoul, used sigil of Haunted Dreams (which was stupid).

Stasiscl
Wow Web Stats 5465DPS
First time ever I speced blood (needed 10% ap) and I did mess up the rotation due to server/fps lag, no AotD aswell due to tanks wiped us on the prior attempt. Obli was hotfixed but ERW did not work.

Tharvos
Weapon: Armageddon
Rune: Fallen Crusader
Sigil: Sigil of Awareness (but still testing out which performs the best)
DPS: 5263
WWS LOG

Eej
Wow Web Stats
5579 DPS in Blood. Forgot to Empower Rune Weapon and pop a Haste Pot during DRW. Used DRW when Fallen Crusader, Greatness and Reflection of Torment were up but not Bloodlust. Forgot to Army of the Dead on the pull.

Connmac
4pcT7, Betrayer, and Sigil of Awareness, also Blood Presence.
WWS
4270 dps

17/0/54

Klingegeist
Wow Web Stats 3837DPS

Cayln
Weapon: Betrayer of Humanity
Rune of the Fallen Crusader
Sigil of Awareness
Used Army of the Dead on the pull
DPS : 5967 , DPS Time : 02:36
WoW Meter Online

Mulgero
Wow Web Stats4240dps. 10man
For once WWS has ghoul right but as usual lacks army of dead. Army did extra 298 dps over whole duration of fight.
Death's Bite with Fallen Crusader
Army summoned at pull

Fugazor
4750dps
No consumables used, 10% AP buff missing and server lagging

Exertim
5327 DPS on WWS (caught Ghoul but missing AoTD)
Wow Web Stats
5659 DPS on Recount
Screenshot
Standard 2H Unholy rotation. My weapon is [Betrayer of Humanity] with Rune of the Fallen Crusader and [Sigil of Awareness]. Army of the Dead on pull, used Insane Strength Potion before I popped my Gargoyle. Unfortunately, I don't have a Nobles deck or a clicky +AP trinket to use prior to summoning my Gargoyle. DPS dropped by approximately 300 due to the Gargoyle changes.

Bloodmourne
5674 dps Wowmeteronline
Prepull AotD, using Death's Bite. Screwed up my gargoyle summon, which would have helped of course. But was steady over 6k for majority of the fight.

Swarly
Gear: [Sigil of Awareness] and [Claymore of Ancient Power]. Same gear as current Armory minus [The Jawbone]
Notes: AotD to start in UH presence with a [Potion of Speed] taken pre pull before switching back to blood. Gargoyle used during Crusader/Mirror procs with speed pot. 40 str food, Kiblers Bits, and Flasked.
WWS: 5592
This doesn't include AotD but does include the Ghoul. Army did 80,782 damage to Patch so if you add it to total damage and go by my given dps time it shows as 6020. Army was channeled as he was pulled so I don't know why it calculates dps time as being so off from total fight time (3'09 dps time to 3'24 fight time) but if you put it at total fight time its 5578 which is roughly equal to what WWS posted. This was my first Naxx run as UH since hitting 80 and I'm fairly pleased with the results. It should also be noted that this was 20 manned so fight time was longer

21/50/0

Morrigann
runeforged with razorice for the mages in raid
using the "old" IT>OBx2>BS>DUMP IT>OB>BS>OB>DUMP rotation
also with the bugged RP generation from Obliterate cutting out 1-2 FS per dump phase.
Wow Web Stats 4977

Malpractices
20/41 Inevitable defeat(fallen crusader)
WWS didn't include army that was summoned at the start of the fight. 4226 dps(without army)
WWS (Quasievil)
Rotation IT, OB, BS, FS, OB Dump

Goetterdaemmerung
Patchwerk 5867 without AotD, other parts of Naxxramas included. Standard 21/50/0 with DRM, 6xIT rotation in Unholy Presence.

Kyzara
Rotation: BT At start, IT>BS>OB>OB>FS(Rime)
Frost Strike at the end of every Rotation until all RP is used
Used BT/UA macro every minute after first BT
Risen Ghoul was used at Start on PW
4pc T7
Glyphs are IT/OB/FS
Maexnna was done in BP rest of instance is in UP, my experiences found that UP was better.
Wow Web Stats - 10 Man(8 Man achievement run) 4563dps

14/50/7

Xephos
4551 dps
Using Sigil of Awareness, Blood Presence etc. Rotation is a simple IT > PS > OB > FS > BS > etc. I didn't stick to the rotation too closely, and we had a slightly shitty raid which appeared to be missing some key buffs (no warrior for example). Also the WWS appears to be giving me someone else's Gargoyle, and misses out the dps from my risen ghoul. Even so, recount showed about 4.5k dps.
Wow Web Stats

0/20/51 DW

Alandriel
5186 on Patchwork (had to manually add ghoul in again), 20/51, Hailstorm/Hatestrike.
Rotation was IT/PS/IT/BS/IT, RP dump (additional PS and Horn during Gargoyle).
Wow Web Stats 4716DPS

10/10/51

Zerack
Spec: 10/10/51
Rotation:
PS IT BS UB IT BS DC
PS IT IT DC IT IT DC
Weapon: 2x[Widow's Fury]
Fallen Crusader
Cinderglacier
Sigil: [Sigil of the Frozen Conscience]
All buffs and debuffs were present. Recount caught AotD and Ghoul, WWS Did not. Adjusted WWS value with Ghoul / AotD values from recount added in shown below.
Recount SS: 5733 DPS (Screenshot)
WWS: 4908 DPS (Links to WWS)
Adjusted WWS with Ghoul / AotD: 6118 DPS

10/31/30

Hai2u2
Spec: 10/31/30
Rotation: PS > IT > BS > BS > HB > Death Coils
PS > IT > IT > IT > HB > Death Coils
Weapon(s): MH[Widow's Fury] OH[Hailstorm] (Fast/Fast)
Runes: Fallen Crusader, Cinderglacier
Sigil: [Sigil of the Frozen Conscience]
Glyphs: [Glyph of Icy Touch] - [Glyph of Plague Strike] - [Glyph of Obliterate] < Rofl accident.
Variables: Army of the Dead mid fight, Gargoyle after Blood Lust.
Recount
WWS
4793dps
(Btw just for interest Seikai, was using 0/31/40 - Slow/Fast, Failalot was 51/13/7 - First night as blood so he may have messed up rotations abit)

Note: I've noticed that if I use NotD before I actually swing at a boss, they do not show up in WWS. Something to look into perhaps. EDIT: I've registered with Wowmeter, i'll run my next naxx25 using that and hopefully provide a comparison between it and WWS to show ghoul and AoTD.

It seems that the standard 17/0/54 Unholy will continue to remain on top for 2H and 32/39 variants for DW. With the released proposed changes comming in 3.1 the community has much more theory crafting ahead of us, and I appreciate the enthusiasm of all the posts and WWS that were made available.

I can only offer a screenshot of recount since it was 10 man Naxx. That said i did significantly higher dps than before (was never able to to get near 4k before)

Did 4431 DPS. Klick me

Points to add.
- Standard Unholy spec
- Was using Unholy Blight the first time
- Forgot to equip new Venture coin sigil, therefore had starter sigil in my slot
- Gargoyle only lasted ~10 seconds since i fucked up RP usage
- Weapons is Deaths Bite with Fallen Crusader
- Was using AotD at the pull

Edit: Fixed link after it stopped working

Your link doesn't work.

For those of you who are unaware, WoW Meter Online is a good place to see what kind of DPS people are putting out (and ranked too). Here is a link to the page featuring all of the Death Knights on US Realms post 3.0.8.

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This may not be a 100% accurate representation yet because not every guild has raided, but it seems like various Frost and Unholy builds are still topping the charts. Within those specs are 0/32/39, 0/44/27, and the standard 17/0/54. Going through each person's specs and armories, it seems like there's a lot of room for flexibility. Blood, however, still seems behind in terms of overall success. Either that or no one has bothered to try yet.

EDIT:

Another interesting find. There is talk in the Blood forum about a 51/0/20 disease-less rotation, and I have found two Death Knights with decent DPS using such a rotation. Armory them: Etiquette and Eimu.

Morrigann
21/50 frost 2h
runeforged with razorice for the mages in raid
using the "old" IT>OBx2>BS>DUMP IT>OB>BS>OB>DUMP rotation
also with the bugged RP generation from Obliterate cutting out 1-2 FS per dump phase.
Wow Web Stats

Aeren
32/39
Hailstorm + FC/Hailstorm + CG
ps it hb hs hs dump, ps it hb it it dump rotation
Gargoyle used with Loatheb's Clicky, but not during any procs, so very poorly timed. AotD 5 seconds prepull.

Wow Web Stats

Edit: AotD not parsed correctly there. They did around 39k, putting me up one more spot, and averaging out to 5891 dps.

I tried various 2h specs after patch against boss dummy (with exact same gear, not using army of dead and non-specced ghoul).

Standard 51/13/7 blood build I was doing around 2400 dps on average with starter sigil, obliterate didn't give RP. (had obliterate glyph which I dont have atm)
Diseaseless 51/0/20 I did around 2250dps with necrosis doing almost 0 damage
Unholy 17/0/54 build I dps was between 2300-2500. (necrosis giving low damage too)
I didn't test frost builds due obliterate and frost strike issues yet.

Couple flaws in my testing was not to set same time for each test and not setting up optimal glyphs for different builds. However at least being self buffed there wasn't significant difference between those 3 specs. Unholy still seemed to be more or less solid 100dps higher but it's rotation is simpler for me at least and aoe is still by far highest on unholy spec.

Going to make bit better test setup at weekend with 3 or 5min limit on fights (+ getting proper glyphs/sigils for each spec) and hoping to get 2nd epic 1 hander to compare those 2 popular dw builds. Patchy testing would be better but would take bit long to test all specs against him...

While I agree that Patchy is good boss to test against but people posting various wws/recount logs with different gear and raid setups won't be helpfull unless figures with similar setups are being significant. Testing against dummy is more controlled and various rotations/specs are easier to compare even dummy has it own limitations (necrosis, raid buff scaling etc.)

5186 on Patchwork (had to manually add ghoul in again), 20/51, Hailstorm/Hatestrike.

Rotation was IT/PS/IT/BS/IT, RP dump (additional PS and Horn during Gargoyle).

http://wowwebstats.com/gbnp3hwjzmily...137&a=x2a4705e

Grimaxe

spec:32/39 5708 dps

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Fast/fast weapon set up Dual widow's fury, fallen crusader mh, cinderglacier oh

using the old 32/39 rotation.

I didn't have plague strike glyph, i still had my unholy scourge strike glyph on. Also i Didn't have the new ice touch sigil.

I think i can push more dps now that i got angry dead last nite for main hand.

Spec: 10/10/51 (Links to Wowhead)
Rotation:

PS IT BS UB IT BS DC
PS IT IT DC IT IT DC

Weapon: 2x[Widow's Fury]
MH Runeforge: Rune of the Fallen Crusader
OH Runeforge: Rune of Cinderglacier
Sigil: [Sigil of the Frozen Conscience]

3'05" Patchwerk in 25 man Naxx. All buffs and debuffs were present. Recount caught AotD and Ghoul, WWS Did not. Adjusted WWS value with Ghoul / AotD values from recount added in shown below.

Recount SS: 5733 DPS (Screenshot)
WWS: 4908 DPS (Links to WWS)
Adjusted WWS with Ghoul / AotD: 6118 DPS

There is of course no link for the adjusted WWS, as it's calculated by adding Ghoul and AotD damage while keeping the same time frame as the active DPS time of WWS. It is however the highest value. Use whichever value you'd prefer for ranking.

Spec: 17/0/54
Weapon: Betrayer of Humanity
Rune of the Fallen Crusader
Sigil of Awareness
Used Army of the Dead on the pull

DPS : 5967 , DPS Time : 02:36
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17/54/0 - 25m Patchwerk: 5470 DPS

Recount shot: CLICK
WWS Report: CLICK

Rotation: IT -> OB -> OB -> BS -> FS/Rime

Weapon: [Armageddon]
Sigil: [Sigil of Awareness]

Glyphs: Icy Touch, Obliterate, Frost Strike

Comments: Ran in Unholy Presence as there were a decent amount of 10 GCD rotations (IT/OB/OB/BS/Rime/FS/FS/FS/FS/HoW) and I wanted to try and hit HoW as much as possible. Pull on Patchwerk was messed up slightly and melee was out for longer than normal (which is why our active presence is lower than ranged here). I was moving the FS around in the rotation to try and consume the KM procs as they came up to prevent KM overlapping, and if the rotation was only 8-9 GCDs long I would hold the last FS until right before IT to minimize the chance of using KM on IT.

I'd love to know when and what those people use to dump runing power too... DRW, Gargoyle, etc.

I'll do 25-men patchwerk tonight on my DK and I can't wait to see the DPS it will do.

Obviously not 5k since i still have a few blues, but still...

Some logs are including Army/some are not, obviously the #s will be drastically different. I would include DPS time as well since shorter the fight the higher the dps, I am not really sure that implies the spec/rotation is good or just the raid.

Spec: 10/31/30
Rotation: PS > IT > BS > BS > HB > Death Coils
PS > IT > IT > IT > HB > Death Coils

Weapon(s): MH[Widow's Fury] OH[Hailstorm] (Fast/Fast)
Runes: Fallen Crusader, Cinderglacier
Sigil: [Sigil of the Frozen Conscience]
Glyphs: [Glyph of Icy Touch] - [Glyph of Plague Strike] - [Glyph of Obliterate] < Rofl accident.

Variables: Army of the Dead mid fight, Gargoyle after Blood Lust.

Recount
WWS

4793dps

(Btw just for interest Seikai, was using 0/31/40 - Slow/Fast, Failalot was 51/13/7 - First night as blood so he may have messed up rotations abit)

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Slow ([Monster - Angry Dread]) / Fast ([Split Greathammer])

Fallen crusader / Razorice (mage buffing).

Recount showed me as 5900+, so im guessing the actual dps in wowmeteronline is more accurate.

Was on tonight´s 25 Man Naxx clear. Using [Sigil of the Frozen Conscience] <3

I had around 15 seconds of lag/delay mid fight, so im confident I could have around 50/100 dps more.

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6215 dps patchwerk

split greathammer hatestrike fast fast

fc razorice

0/32/39

forgot to eat food buff and didn't food buff pet. got new gear later in run for another 100 ap or so and gargoyle didnt get lusted. 6500+ next week shouldn't be hard. gonna spec 0/33/38 no crypt fever and get deathchill next week.

Bigfoonk
51/0/20
IS PS HS HS OB DUMP HS HS HS HS OB dump
7557 DPS thaddius
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Don't want to interrupt the thread - but using Thaddius? Sorry, but that doesn't belong as a comparison of DPS.

I'm trying to find out numbers for 10 man DPS. Right now I'm slow/fast 32/39 (The World of Warcraft Armory) and I'm struggling to get above 3k (3k on fights such as Noth and Patchwerk.) Now I will qualify by saying I've not done 25 man naxx which means no 25man loot =\

I wonder however with upgrades like Death's Bite, and a 44/27 2hander build (KM procs for Frost Strike and Rime procs for HB are nasty I hear) or 17/0/54 I am HOPING to push past 3.6k maybe even into 4k.


This may be a useless post X.x but I guess I'm trying to get some ideas outta here and get people to think along my track a bit.

Also, Tharvos do you burn DRW whenever it's up? It still doesn't seem "that" good but I guess it's always a matter of when you burn it.

5772 dps on patchwork tonight using a 0/31/40 build.
Using Duel Hailstorms (due to the fact the we haven't seen and angry dread).
Also used the new IT sigil seems to be a lot more DPS.

Used normal /cancelaura macro's still here's my armory and SS of the Recount.



Here's the WWS still bugged not showing ghoul and AotD.

Patchwork dies within ~3 minutes or less, so i can't use DRW more than once.
But yes, i use it as soon as possible. I build up 100 RP (i dont use runic power dumps until i have 100 RP).

As soon as i have 100 RP i wait for a "special moment" during my rotation where i have the right runes ready and than i use DRW + Hysteria.

While DRW is up, i change my rotation to IT > PS > HS > HS > OB > DC > OB > Empower Runeweapon > OB > OB > HS > HS > DC until the blade despawns.

Right after it despawns, i have a new set of FU runes ready and can repeat my normal rotation...

I don't know whether or not this is the most beneficial use of DRW, but it seems to work fine for me though, but i am up for improvements if you know some .