There is something I don't understand.
I thought DW DKs need 11% hit + 3% virulence + 3% raid debuff = 17% spell hit cap
But ZTN is at 9,3% hit + 2% virulence and didn't miss a single spell.
Anyone explain me how or what is the real ideal hit % please
Glyph of Bone Shield because i'am tank in 10ppl and i don't want to change glyphs every raid. Glyph of Plague Strike means 1.6k damage per 2mins. It's 13dps.
Thanks for linking that info, had not seen it myself (obviously).
Still wondering why he uses Glyph of Bone Shield over, for instance, Glyph of Plague Strike.
Especially because he specced 1/3 Outbreak & 2/3 Virulence instead of 3/3 Virulence.
The only reason i can think off is because he is probably tanking a lot of trash thanks to HB crits.
Edit: ztn explained the virulence thing in the above post (Alliance only). Leave me with the bone shield issue
Edit 2: bone shield edit'd in too
Wow. Great numbers. Could you tell us what kind of rotation (an macro's) you use and why you glyphed Bone Shield?
Thanks in advance.
It has a lot less to do with his rotation than it does his kill time. Those numbers are only achievable if you bring fewer tanks/healers and more DPS (which is why they wiped 7 times). Not knocking on him as I would do it if my guild would allow it but his numbers are not realistic for a normal raid setup.
Bone Shield glyph is more useful than the tiny amount of dps you'd get from Plague Strike glyph (it should really be buffed). Only if you really want to min/max DPS will you have a glyph like PS.
I also only run 244 hit (which is 9.3% spell hit IIRC)and 2/3 Virulence. I am JUST below cap (I have a Draenei in group) but I am close enough to it to not care that much. I will probably spec 3/3 next week just to make sure.
Glyph of Bone Shield because i'am tank in 10ppl and i don't want to change glyphs every raid. Glyph of Plague Strike means 1.6k damage per 2mins. It's 13dps.
Do you do your rotation in Unholy pres or Blood pres?
51/0/20 diseaseless using 2xOB, 2xHS. No sigil, Armageddon. Gear still unenchanted in some slots (but don't tell anyone, it's a secret). Army went up during the pull, BL went up pretty much as I hit 100 runic and all 3 procs happened at once. Neglected to drink any speed pots because I'm dumb.
Patchwerk, 2:48; 5521 DPS WWS [Angry Dread]/[Widow's Fury]
Fallen Crusader/Cinderglacier
Glyphs: Glyph of Frost Strike, Glyph of the Ghoul, Glyph of Icy Touch
Rotation based on a priority system to IT, FS, and HB when available, although work can still be done. Priority not set to use HB enough, perhaps, in retrospect. Army was used and summoned at the very start of combat under Unholy Presence, as well as Gargoyle. Managed to shift into Blood Presence about five to ten seconds afterward. Popped Empowered Rune Weapon to compensate for the use of runes. Bloodlust was not popped until near the end of combat, unfortunately, or the DPS would have likely been much higher. My hit rating is incredibly higher (about 60-70 points) post-run due to a couple upgrades than prior. My haste is a good bit higher as well. Regardless, 5.5k sustained is not anything to complain about, and I'm beginning to believe the higher numbers are merely skewed, and this is about the reasonable cap for potential sustained DPS.
Patchwerk, 3:26; 4418 DPS Wow Web Stats
Red Sword of Courage/GC (Double FC)
Glyphs: PS, IT, Ghoul
AOTD was on CD, Garg 20-30 into the pull, speed pot during heroism. I have blood tap bound to IT and Deathchill bound to HB and do not use a /cancelaura macro.
Using ZTN's rotations, and when one death rune is up due to me missing a blood tap: ps it bb it hb 2x[coil] (it+coil if rime procs). Considering getting an addon to help me gain the extra IT per minute along with reason rime to prevent Deathchill's to be wasted on IT's.
Had alot of 10 man, blue pvp gear, got t7.5 helm, legs, shoulders, and my spiffy new belt all in that run, hoping to break 5k this week.
Patchwerk, 2:57 - 5416 DPS Patchwerk WWS
Using Betrayer of Humanity
Glyphs: Frost Strike, Icy Touch, Obliterate
Army of the Dead was on cooldown, so I was not able to use it for this fight. I used a speed pot right before the pull, and summoned my ghoul right before heroism, which occured at the very start. I used my second speed pot at 34% so I could take advantage of the extra damage from Merciless Combat, as well as the Unbreakable Armor/blood tap macro for an extra 10% strength. Rotation was IT / OB / BS / OB / FS dump. I only had rime proc once, and neglected to use howling blast which would have contributed a very small increase to my DPS. This is without the sigil of awareness off Heigan.
results from this cd:
0/35/36
Patchwerk 7570dps 2-00, 100dps worse than previous cd WoW Meter Online
LL/LL 2xFC
Glyphs: IT, Ghoul, Bone shield
tott from 1 rogue and hysteria from OT
no FF on boss
I'm interested in this build as well. And no, his armory isn't showing 35/36.
Specifically ztn, I'd like to know if you specced into Outbreak since you're using BB in your rotation. My BBs hit for less than half than my BSs without it, and would still be significantly weaker even if I had 3/3 outbreak. Do you only swear by the reduced GCD because it is a spell ? And if so, how much haste is required for this ?
Exactly. I am curious to see the 35/36 build. tried making one myself but doesn't look like it would work. So i wanted to see how he did it. Maybe get some ideas to push me over 5k.
51/0/20
Patchwerk shows 5563 Dps on WWS, but it was closer to 5900 with AoTD, with wasn't recorded for some reason. ~5900 DPS Patchwerk
Death's Bite
Glyphs: IT, Blood Strike, Obliterate
Hysteria'ed myself, no ToTT. Was flasked and had 40 str food on at the time.
Rotation was obl/obl/HS/HS...Diseaseless basically.
Rather sad that this is one of my better Patches and it's diseaseless.
WTB BoH...QQ
Last Laugh/ Hailstorm (Double FC) IT Sigil
I had Str food and Str Elixir. Pet had food. Received no other non-raid buffs. Used no other consumables.
AotD as pull was called, and Gargoyled early (no idea what procs I had up).
While that's certainly a lot of DPS, yeah, when the fight lasts only 90 seconds things like hysteria, dancing rune weapon and army of the dead kind of skew things heavily. That's still a hell of a lot of dps coming out of blood, which was something I previously never thought possible.
edit; Though, now that I consider it, if you know that your fights are going to be that short, I can't imagine a better spec than blood. Even if your insane dps is based off long cooldowns, if your raid is routinely dropping every boss in naxx in two-three minutes...
Patchwerk, 3:26; 4418 DPS Wow Web Stats
Red Sword of Courage/GC (Double FC)
Glyphs: PS, IT, Ghoul
AOTD was on CD, Garg 20-30 into the pull, speed pot during heroism. I have blood tap bound to IT and Deathchill bound to HB and do not use a /cancelaura macro.
Using ZTN's rotations, and when one death rune is up due to me missing a blood tap: ps it bb it hb 2x[coil] (it+coil if rime procs). Considering getting an addon to help me gain the extra IT per minute along with reason rime to prevent Deathchill's to be wasted on IT's.
Had alot of 10 man, blue pvp gear, got t7.5 helm, legs, shoulders, and my spiffy new belt all in that run, hoping to break 5k this week.
this week:
Patchwerk, 2:54; 4434 DPS Wow Web Stats
Hatestrike/GC (Double FC)
upgrades + aotd = 16 dps =/. Although wws has my presence at 95%, probably due to some of the lag we experienced during the fight. oceanic server ftl. Got a widow's fury during the run. Didnt invest any time on addons, been to busy lvling my alt's inscription, hoping to get a nobles deck together by next week.
I know it isn't Patch but I figure there isn't much difference between him & Raz(if there is I apologize)
Fight : Instructor Raz
DPS : 6287
Weapons : Split Greathammer (FC) / Hatestrike (CG)
Glyphs : IT, PS, Ghoul
Rotation : IT,PS,HB,BS,BS, RP Dump IT,PS,HB,IT,IT, RP Dump
Sigil : IT Sigil
Recount : http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/4995/deepsml2.jpg (not good at this so if link doesn't work copy & past pl0x)
Used Garg when Mirror of Truth buff was up only and popped Aotd when he was at 50%
If for any reason my link to recount ss doesn't work I apologize and currently WWS not working for sooo yeah.
This is the first time where DC has been my top move and I find this very odd.....any thoughts?
I know it isn't Patch but I figure there isn't much difference between him & Raz(if there is I apologize)
Fight : Instructor Raz
DPS : 6287
Weapons : Split Greathammer (FC) / Hatestrike (CG)
Glyphs : IT, PS, Ghoul
Rotation : IT,PS,HB,BS,BS, RP Dump IT,PS,HB,IT,IT, RP Dump
Sigil : IT Sigil
Recount : http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/4995/deepsml2.jpg (not good at this so if link doesn't work copy & past pl0x)
Used Garg when Mirror of Truth buff was up only and popped Aotd when he was at 50%
If for any reason my link to recount ss doesn't work I apologize and currently WWS not working for sooo yeah.
This is the first time where DC has been my top move and I find this very odd.....any thoughts?
Raz doesn't work because of the absurd amount of damage people do to the understudies after Raz's death. Notice that you recorded a 130k deatcoil hit, FAR beyond what you would normally be getting, by several orders or magnitude.
2:59 patchwerk kill, No Blood DK, No Ehance shammy.
FC/FC [Angry Dread][Angry Dread] (was the highest dps weapons available to me)
Army summoned on pull (was a sloppy pull though), I ignored Freezing Fog (no cancel aura macro), flasked, haste food, pet had strength food
Rotation was standard 32/39 DW
next week Ill try to pick up a fast offhand and see how much better it is.
02/09/09, 8:26 AM
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