Fishboss

Hmm, just seemed like in your WWS reports either the Runeblade wasn't up it's full duration (I can't see its strikes which is the annoying part except for HS and it's normal melee (Also, I thought it was a direct copy of your attacks, I guess it's like 50% damage or something X.x)

Just didn't seem to play any real DPS boost at all with it up X.x

 

Mulgero

10man Patchwerk without shaman 16/55 2h unholy build with standard rotation 4240dps.

Wow Web Stats

For once WWS has ghoul right but as usual lacks army of dead. Army did extra 298 dps over whole duration of fight. Also forgot to use gargoyle second time since fight took over 3min still. I had over 700dps increase from last run, most noticeable effect was capping expertise.

Death's Bite with Fallen Crusader
Army summoned at pull

 

Fugazor

A little OT: Use WMO (WoW Meter Online - The Best World of Warcraft Combat Log Analyse System!Fully support Wrath of the Lich King!) instead of WWS. It does not have any problems with pets, they don't delete "free" reports and they are actually working and updating their tool.

I did 4750dps on 25 patchwerk yesterday with standard 17/0/54. Even tho I topped dps I think I miss few hundred considering my gear. No consumables used, 10% AP buff missing and server lagging - that didn't help too.

 

Malpractices

Patchwerk:
20/41 Inevitable defeat(fallen crusader)
WWS didn't include army that was summoned at the start of the fight. 4226 dps(without army)

WWS (Quasievil)

I still feel I am lagging behind where I should be. I like the playstyle of 2 hand frost but the numbers just aren't as high as I am seeing others get. Rotation IT, OB, BS, FS, OB Dump


edit: added rotation

 

crunchyblack

First night as 2h frost, (usually 17/0/54) and I LOVED it. My spec was 17/54/0 and my rotation was:

Bloodtap -> IT -> BS -> FS -> OB -> FS -> OB -> DUMP

4565 DPS on patch, ever tho I messed up my rotation mu;tiple times (as I'm still getting used to it).

Also, my weapon is complete garbage...I'm still using demise (186 dps) so my DPS will definitely go up when I get a better weapon. As it stands, I'm sayin goodbye to unholy and keepin frost as my new spec. I just love seeing huge numbers lol.

 

Xephos

Similar results here although my gear is a lot better: 4551 dps as 14/50/7 2h Frost last night on Patch.

Using Sigil of Awareness, Blood Presence etc. Rotation is a simple IT > PS > OB > FS > BS > etc. I didn't stick to the rotation too closely, and we had a slightly shitty raid which appeared to be missing some key buffs (no warrior for example). Also the WWS appears to be giving me someone else's Gargoyle, and misses out the dps from my risen ghoul. Even so, recount showed about 4.5k dps.

Wow Web Stats

Overall, not as impressive as I had expected really.

 

Avenrus

Xephos, 14/50/7 is not a viable frost spec, as proven in the frost dps thread.

As for my personal DPS, i did 4500~ on patchwerk 10 man as 21/50/0 using the Blood Tap - > IT BS FS OB FS OB FS rotation.
My Armory if you wish to take a look.

 

• Zurm

Patchwerk as 0/32/39 using:

PS-IT-BS-BS-HB-RP
PT-IT-IT-IT-HB-RP

Weapons were [Silent Crusader] MH, [Widow's Fury] OH. Sadly, due to a bug with outfitter and prismatic gems, I was wearing a tanking chest and tanking sigil for the fight, instead of the Icy Touch one from Grizzly hills.

5414 DPS

In my own experience (slightly arbitrary, as I have no WMO/recount to back it up), 17/0/54 has been very competitive to this spec.

 

• Lanky

I'm seeing a trend with Gargoyle here. 25k Damage over 30 seconds in that wowmeter. Death Coil, at the moment, won't beat that unless it crits a great deal, but damn is it close. The nerf is really huge it seems.

 

• Zurm

That gargoyle was also cast just after a lust (which I believe is the correct way, not before, since the gargoyle goes off your personal haste effects and isn't directly affected by it?) and with a Greatness and Fallen Crusader proc if memory serves. The only way it could be more ideal is if my mirror had procced, too.

While gargoyle may have lost a lot of it's punch, the ghoul certainly hasn't. My ghoul did 832 dps that fight, definitely a record for him.

 

◊ Eej

Which is kind of amusing, because apparently my Rune Weapon did 68k damage in 22 seconds? That seems kind of excessive, maybe WWS messed up? Or maybe it's just that kickin' rad.

Guess I should post mine in here too: Wow Web Stats

5579 DPS in Blood. Forgot to Empower Rune Weapon and pop a Haste Pot during DRW. Used DRW when Fallen Crusader, Greatness and Reflection of Torment were up but not Bloodlust. Forgot to Army of the Dead on the pull.

 

• Lanky

So this means 2H Unholy is now officially the redheaded stepchild of DK DPS? Wow, never saw that coming.

 

Flamingcloud

From what I can tell 2H unholy still has the highest 2H parse.

 

Nacht

Sorry to stray off topic a little, but I've got to say that I'm surprised how little damage gargoyle did for you, Zurm, considering how your gear is superior to mine and you say you had at least one proc and bloodlust active when summoned. I got just under 40k damage on Noth from him Tuesday. See WWS. I'm pretty sure I had Fury of Five Fights fully stacked and both Mirror and FC procs, but don't think I had bloodlust.

The least I've gotten out of him in 30 sec is about 21k, that's activating him with no bloodlust and no procs. His damage is still very strong, but not quite as strong as it was before. The duration nerf is the more significant of the two nerfs, imo. But he's still tremendous burst when timed right.

 

Cabal

But please consider that with the new gargoyle, you can perfectly fire off a few rune power abilities without fear of it dropping. Gargoyle is not exclusive of other abilities, as it once was.

 

sampick

Hello fellow DK!

I'm a long time reader and first time poster. I just wanted to ask if you guys wanted to post your dps on Heroic Dummy since I can only do patchwerk once a week and I'm messing around with many specs. Anyway.....lately, I've been messing around with 0/44/27 with a 2H and unholy presence. It might sound pretty ackward but...with about only heroic gear and 2-3 blues, I was putting around 2.9-3k on heroic dummy without using my gargoyle. On a 4min15 sec kill on patchwerk, I ended up at 5.2k dps. Sorry I dont have screen shot and wws link. I was wondering if anyone geared had try this spec for 25 man raid. Here is a screenshot of my heroic dummy testing.



For those wondering, I was using unholy presence and this rotation.
IT-PS-FS-IT-PS-FS-BS-BS-RP (dump)
IT-PS-FS-IT-PS-FS-IT-IT-RP(dump)

Everytime I had a rime proc I would cast it and just skip a PS. Any comments would be appreciated and I'd like if you ugys could post some heroic dummy numbers. Remember that I have gargoyle but didnt use it on the dummy.

 

Mystryl

Yes, I experienced the same thing just now testing, after having read your post. Granted it is on a test dummy, so it definitely won't say that this is the be all end all DK DPS specc. However, I have Angry Dread and Widows Fury for my DW setup atm, and Claymore of Unholy Might for my 2hd, and I was pushing 2-300 DPS more with claymore than with my DW setup, in Unholy Presence (which was also higher dmg than blood presence, I suspect its due to way more frost strikes, which was also my top dmg skill).

Going to test DW with unholy presence, and 0/44/27 with annihilation and obliterate and so see if that will give even more DPS ^^.

 

Exertim

17/0/54

5327 DPS on WWS (caught Ghoul but missing AoTD)

Wow Web Stats

5659 DPS on Recount

Screenshot

Standard 2H Unholy rotation. My weapon is [Betrayer of Humanity] with Rune of the Fallen Crusader and [Sigil of Awareness]. Army of the Dead on pull, used Insane Strength Potion before I popped my Gargoyle. Unfortunately, I don't have a Nobles deck or a clicky +AP trinket to use prior to summoning my Gargoyle. DPS dropped by approximately 300 due to the Gargoyle changes.

I'll be trying a 2H Frost build next week and I'll report back here on the results.

 

Fishboss

Figured after our Naxx run, here's a KT fight (not optimum, I'll post the WWS later) this is 10 man for anyone else who wants to see numbers of a 17/0/54



I really wish I could get more like 3.6k consistently but I guess I'm being held back by gear.

That's also the Sigil of Haunted Dreams

 

Grimaxe

Some of the people with high parse damage , their guilds kill patchwerk quicker. Army of the dead and bloodlusted i was doing over 7k dps with my dual wield build till that wore off in the end i ended up with 5700. So if your guild can kill patchwerk quicker , the higher your dps will be on that fight.

 

sampick

This is exactly why im requesting DPS dmg on heroic target dummy with a base amount of time like 3 mins, so that only the spec and gear matters.

 

Mugaaz

The patchwerk DPS metric is becoming useless unless people exclude AoTD and Gargoyle/DRW. These abilities severely inflate your actual dps the shorter the kill is. If someones DPS seems much higher than yours remove both of your DRW/Garg & AoTD from the parse then recalculate the DPS. This still isn't wholly accurate because of Bloodlust.

 

Bloody_sorcerer

Patchwerk 25, 4777 DPS. Spec is 27/44/0 due to lack of reliable enh shaman/marks hunter. [Cryptfiend's Bite] with RotFC; IT sigil from grizzly hills. AotD used before pull, rotation was IT -> OB > FS -> OB -> BS -> FS/rime dump.
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Goetterdaemmerung

Patchwerk 5867 without AotD, other parts of Naxxramas included. Standard 21/50/0 with DRM, 6xIT rotation in UP.

I don't agree that cooldowns like AotD or gargoyle should not be included. With the exception of AotD, those abilities are part of what makes a spec valuable.

 

◊ Eej

If you spec for a cooldown but don't pop it, what's the point? You can only get x DPS on Patchwerk because you are going balls out with every cooldown you have, hitting them when you get the most benefit out of it.

You might as well factor out random procs like Mirror of Truth, because there's a huge difference between a 10 second proc going off right when you're about to hit the heavy-hitting part of your rotation (i.e. Obliterate/Scourge Strike/Howling Blast/Heart Strike) versus the weaker part or the downtime (Death Coils, Icy Touch on certain builds, Plague Strike).

Although really, I don't even know what you mean by "actual DPS". I thought "actual DPS" was the amount of damage you deal in the duration of the encounter.

Also for some reason I keep thinking this thread should be called "America's Next Top Raid DPS".