• Unsubtle

Not sure how you calculated the values and prioritization orders on the weapons, but they are wrong.

As is generally agreed, Threat generation on a weapon is a far better judgement value then Avoidance.

There is no way [Saliva Corroded Pike] is better then Titansteel destroyer? Lower Max damage, less hit, less strength and only slightly more stamina.

Please check before blindly posting.

 

sp00n

And he clearly stated in the OP that threat is ignored in this list, so please first read before blindly posting.

 

Griefknight

I would like to know why threat generation is being ignored, it is a key factor to tanking and shouldn't ever be ignored.

 

sp00n

Because this is a specific list for a specific purpose, namely reaching the most avoidance and crit immunity pre Nax.

People who tank with [Axe of Bloodstained Ice] and then wonder why they do not generate enough threat will find other ways to ruin their character anyway.

 

• Unsubtle

I did read, however, surely taking the avoidence of a 2H weapon is fully pointless. No one in their right mind would choose that order of weapons, with the possible exception of [Axe of Bloodstained Ice] if they are really really really lacking in defense.

Although labelled clearly, some common sense must prevail in making a "Pre-Raid DK Tank Gear" list.

Had the title been written as "Pre-Raid DK Avoidance and Crit Immunity at all costs Gear" list, I could understand, but in this current case, I cannot.

EDIT: Also, why the use of [Perfect Subtle Bloodstone] over [Subtle Scarlet Ruby] ?

 

Darian_TruBlade

Because the recipe for that cut is not currently in the game.

"A man's IQ, yearly income, sexual prowess, ingenuity, physical appearance and generally every other aspect of his character can be condensed down to four digits: his Arena rating." - Zechsy [70 Rogue - Skullcrusher (EU) - 10/23/2007]

 

• Unsubtle

I really need to read comments on Wowhead!

 

Deathspear

Svala's Bloodied Shackles should be added to the list. Drops in reg UP and is easily farmable.

 

Ribs

Would also add Gauntlets of the Water Revenant to the hands list. Drops in heroic VH so easy to obtain as well.

 

Glandur

Very easily farmable. I 2-boxed it as a Frost tank/Resto shaman. Fourth time was the charm. Whenever the tank gets summoned, just heal through it. Healer being summoned just requires AoE spam to break him free, and maybe a quick instant heal if you fail to break it - on a 15k hp healer it was not an issue, as long as both chars are topped off.

 

Nemantopia

the Blood Caked Stompers from the Argent Tournament are now deserving of a good spot on this list, clocking in at 29812.05 rating based on your ranking. Since they're a +34 defense item while also packing dodge and stamina, this makes them worse than the Wyrmrest boots if you're seriously needing more defense to become uncrittable. Once you are comfortably defense 'capped', however, these have better avoidance etc. and are pathetically easy to get considering they are ten champion seals and you can start tournament questing at 77.

While probably a bit outdated, this listing is much more useful than trying to get WoWhead to filter items you want every time you're looking for a pre-raid upgrade to what you have! The other AT pickings are kind of odd-ball, but I'll scrounge once I have better access at home and try to compile any useful values for this list.

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Wolfetones

I am currently leveling a frost tank and am close to hitting 80. I have a question about using [Sigil of the Unfaltering Knight]. Is it worth getting this Sigil when i will not be using Icy Touch in my rotation that much because of the new Howling Blast glyph? Or should i spend my Emblems on something else?
Also i am wondering if i should use Icy touch on a Boss fight instead of Howling Blast? I know Howling Blast takes the extra rune but would using Icy Touch be a loss in TPS?

This was a reply i post in another thread but i got no answer on it, so i am wondering for this pre-raid gear list is it worth getting any more? for a frost tank anyway.

 

Shazear

IMHO:
The Sigil gives you a +Def buff that lasts 30 secs. I'd say drop IT to open, and once every 30 sec thereafter won't hurt your overall TPS very much. You could still keep HB in your rotation otherwise. The def is a nice way to round out your so you can gem/gear for other things until a Raid-level sigil drops as you progress. Those other choices will help balance out your TPS and/or Avoidance and should make up for the difference.

 

Muggins

If you use Blood Tap as you begin you can keep a steady HB > OB > IT > BS through most of the fight, replacing one of your blood strikes with icy touch. If you get rime procs use it whenever you have a gap and replace the HB in the rotation with another OB until it comes round again.

 

Lanaari

I like to add one suggestion.

Unsmashable Heavy Band that drops off Ingvar the Plunderer in H UK. Easily enough obtained from in my opinion the easiest herioc

 

Paratrooper1508

Wow my browser totally replied to the wrong post (I have multiple EJ windows open). I apologize and Mod please delete this.

 

Nemantopia

Clocks in at 5941.62 stat weight according to OP, putting it above non-epics except for Woeful Band, so it probably could use a spot. Shield block may be bad itemization, but it's 30 defense and better than most ilvl 187s

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valdek

While it's only level 68, [Adamantine Figurine] is a great starting trinket because of the defense (which is sometimes hard to find on trinkets) and the ease of getting it, and the proc is not bad, either. It's obtained from Blackheart in Normal or Heroic Shadow Labyrinth, who is easily soloable with an 80 Death Knight (just be sure to clear his room first).

 

s[orc]ery

Jewelcrafting also gives you access to [Figurine - Ruby Hare], that's two stamina trinkets right off the bat for what will continue to be the best profession for tanks even after the nerf (though only slightly). Also realistically i would recommend [Heavy Borean Armor Kit] over most of the non-defense rating enchants, depending on how soon you will upgrade the items.

PvP is a great way to get stamina/armor upgrades and reach crit immune. In particular:
- The 2 piece bonus of [Hateful Gladiator's Dreadplate Chestpiece] (+50 resilience)
- [Greater Inscription of the Gladiator] which is still used by many endgame tanks for 10k honor points.
- [Furious Gladiator's Greatsword] one of the best tanking weapons in the game, and worth playing 10 games a week for. With the new arena rating system 1850 rating is also very easy to obtain.

The Argent Tournament dailies also give very good tanking upgrades, in particular:
- [Claymore of the Prophet]/[Greatsword of the Sin'dorei]: cost = 25 [Champion's Seal]
- [Blood-Caked Stompers]: cost = 10 [Champion's Seal]

[Argent Skeleton Crusher] is also a reasonable weapon and worth picking up from the reputation vendor once you finish grinding Crusade for [Arcanum of the Stalwart Protector].

 

Schintus

This is missing IMO: [Gauntlets of the Water Revenant] (from Ichoron, VH heroic) + [Formula: Enchant Gloves - Armsman]

 

Nemantopia

A decent enough item, with comprable defense to Tempered Saronite while having better threat stats, but unless you are comfortably def capped this is rather like the AT boots...better overall, but you have to have the defense from other areas.

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Ralnor

[Subtle Scarlet Ruby] is now in the game and should replace [Perfect Subtle Bloodstone]. The design can be purchased from Tiffany Cartier in Dalaran.

 

irongnome

First time post here
figure i should make it useful on a thread that helped me out.

From normal TotC
[Girdle of the Pallid Knight] 29735.73
[Legguards of Abandoned Fealty] 43420.62
[Boots of Heartfelt Repentance] 32832.91
[Mercy's Hold] 30338.04
[The Black Heart] 9667.98

the values were generated using the same formulas in the original post

if the original author does not mind i would like to update the post to current content for the time being.

 

jhneoh

Epic pre-raid gear, updated to 3.2 (not including Emblem of Triumph gear)

Sorted by ilvl (descending). Where ilvls are the same, its sorted by eyeballing.

Head:
[Conqueror's Darkruned Faceguard] - 58 Emblems of Conquest
[Helm of the Crestfallen Challenger] - Heroic ToC
[Tempered Titansteel Helm] - Crafted BoE

Neck:
[Shard of the Crystal Forest] - 19 Emblems of Conquest
[Titanium Earthguard Chain] - Crafted BoE

Shoulder:
[Regal Aurous Shoulderplates] - Heroic ToC
[Valorous Scourgeborne Pauldrons] - 60 Emblems of Valor
[Wapach's Spaulders of Solidarity] - BoE world drop

Back:
[Platinum Mesh Cloak] - 25 Emblems of Valor
[Durable Nerubhide Cape] - Crafted BoE

Chest:
[Conqueror's Darkruned Chestguard] - 58 Emblems of Conquest

Wrist:
[Bracers of Dalaran's Parapets] - 60 Emblems of Valor
[Bracers of the Herald] - Heroic OK

Hands:
[Gauntlets of the Royal Watch] - 28 Emblems of Conquest
[Mercy's Hold] - Normal ToC
[Fireproven Gauntlets] - Kirin Tor Exalted
[Horn-Tipped Gauntlets] - Heroic Gundrak

Waist:
[Indestructible Plate Girdle] - Crafted BoE (requires Runed Orbs)
[Shieldwarder Girdle] - 28 Emblems of Conquest
[Girdle of the Pallid Knight] - Normal ToC
[Ancient Aligned Girdle] - Heroic AN

Legs:
[Valorous Scourgeborne Legguards] - 75 Emblems of Valor
[Legguards of Abandoned Fealty] - Normal ToC
[Bolstered Legplates] - H Nexus

Feet:
[Spiked Deathdealers] - Crafted BoE (requires Runed Orbs)
[Kyzoc's Ground Stompers] - 40 Emblems of Valor
[Boots of Heartfelt Repentance] - Normal ToC
[Tempered Titansteel Treads] - Crafted BoE

Rings:
[Mark of the Relentless] - Heroic ToC
[Signet of the Impregnable Fortress] - 25 Emblems of Valor
[Titanium Earthguard Ring] - Crafted BoE
[Keystone Great-Ring] - Heroic DTK

Trinkets:
[Valor Medal of the First War] - 40 Emblems of Heroism
[The Black Heart] - Normal ToC

2H Weapon:
[Marrowstrike] - Heroic ToC
[Edge of Ruin] - Heroic ToC

Sigil:
[Sigil of Deflection] - 19 Emblems of Conquest
[Sigil of the Unfaltering Knight] - 15 Emblems of Heroism

 

Hyber

Again, thank you for the 3.2 update! You're saving me a ton of work here on my new DK! It was kind of a rough time to hit 80 and need information, really. You guys are making it much easier.